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What If?

archie mac

International Coach
These sort of things fascinate me, although I know they really mean nothing. I was just wondering what others think?

What if DG Bradman had never been born, which batsman would be considered the best ever?

What if Australia would have scored those two extra runs, would Martyn still be in the Test side?

What if Gordon Greenidge had decided to play for England instead of the Windies, would England have lost the Ashes in 1982/83?

What if Archie Mac had never joined this forum, would people be asking these silly Q? :D
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
archie mac said:
What if DG Bradman had never been born, which batsman would be considered the best ever?
No one will be a stand out, but i would go for Tendulkar even though his current form hasn't been great. But there are many others that come close to him or even are better then him

archie mac said:
What if Australia would have scored those two extra runs, would Martyn still be in the Test side?
No they would not have dropped him, they should not have dropped him in the first place, but hopefully his misfortune gives Watson a chance.

archie mac said:
What if Gordon Greenidge had decided to play for England instead of the Windies, would England have lost the Ashes in 1982/83?
Probably not, IMO one of the reason for his major success was that he had Haynes at the other end. Just like one of the reason for Langer and Hayden (in the past) success. Maybe he could have formed a great conbination with a Englishmen, but that is another what if.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
What if apartheid never happened - would G. Pollock be seen unequivocally as the second best batsman ever?
 

archie mac

International Coach
vic_orthdox said:
What if apartheid never happened - would G. Pollock be seen unequivocally as the second best batsman ever?
A good argument for yes. The players who played against him rank him either just below or above Sobers. Lawry was one who thought him the best he played with or against.

I remember when Australia sent a rebel team to Sth Afr. in the mid 80s they thought him still the best batsman in Sth Aft.

I seem him play a charity game in Australia, he must have been in his 50s he still looked a class act.
 

C_C

International Captain
archie mac said:
A good argument for yes. The players who played against him rank him either just below or above Sobers. Lawry was one who thought him the best he played with or against.

I remember when Australia sent a rebel team to Sth Afr. in the mid 80s they thought him still the best batsman in Sth Aft.

I seem him play a charity game in Australia, he must have been in his 50s he still looked a class act.
Graeme Pollock ? I dont think he would've been more than 'good'. Barry Richards on the other hand i can see as being one of the most successful post WWII opener after Gavaskar.....
I think Pollock, Richards, barlow, Procter etc. were excellent players but a tad over-rated due to the tragedy of their careers.

As per if Bradman wasnt around, it would be Tendulkar IMO.

With Martyn, i think he would've been history unfortunately even if OZ had scored those two runs...
Greenidge- he would've made ENG way more competetive but his figures would be just under 40 or just above - he would've struggled against the WI like every single WI batsman did barring Richards and Lloyd of that era.
Last but not the least, if Archie wasnt around then this forum would be poorer for it.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Top thread.

Some more what ifs:

What if Pakistan would have been out in the 1992 World Cup without qualifying for the semis had rain not occured in the robin?

What if India did not win the World Cup in 1983?

What if Pieterson had stuck on with South Africa?

What if Stuart Law had managed to play at least 50 tests?

What if Cronje had not died in a plane crash?
 

archie mac

International Coach
C_C said:
Graeme Pollock ? I dont think he would've been more than 'good'. Barry Richards on the other hand i can see as being one of the most successful post WWII opener after Gavaskar.....
I think Pollock, Richards, barlow, Procter etc. were excellent players but a tad over-rated due to the tragedy of their careers..
I thought Pollock lost nothing in comparison with Richards, when they batted together (from what I have read).

C_C said:
As per if Bradman wasnt around, it would be Tendulkar IMO.

With Martyn, i think he would've been history unfortunately even if OZ had scored those two runs...
I thought of Tendulkar, but Hammond appeals to me as well. I Just took it for granted that everyone would have thought Martyn would have stayed in the side. Interesting.
C_C said:
Greenidge- he would've made ENG way more competetive but his figures would be just under 40 or just above - he would've struggled against the WI like every single WI batsman did barring Richards and Lloyd of that era..
Also Greenidge seemed to struggle in OZ.
C_C said:
Last but not the least, if Archie wasnt around then this forum would be poorer for it.
Flattery will get you everywhere :D
 

C_C

International Captain
Pratyush said:
Top thread.

Some more what ifs:

What if Pakistan would have been out in the 1992 World Cup without qualifying for the semis had rain not occured in the robin?

What if India did not win the World Cup in 1983?

What if Pieterson had stuck on with South Africa?

What if Stuart Law had managed to play at least 50 tests?

What if Cronje had not died in a plane crash?

my opinions:

1. South Africa probably would've won it ( IF there was no rain in any matches- 22 runs in 1 ball is riduclous)

2. WI would've won it and Indian cricket would've far little to show for

3. South Africa would've been a slightly better team - Pietersen is still to play more than 5 tests and 20 ODIs - this 'what if' is suited after Pietersen has played like 100-150 ODIs and 50 Tests or so

4. Got no idea really.

5. Cronje would probably be serving Jail time right now and the matchfixing saga would've been investigated far more.
 

C_C

International Captain
I thought of Tendulkar, but Hammond appeals to me as well. I Just took it for granted that everyone would have thought Martyn would have stayed in the side. Interesting.
Really cannot see Hammond before Sobers, Viv, Lara, Steve Waugh, Dravid........
 

Zinzan

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Pratyush said:
Top thread.

Some more what ifs:

What if Pakistan would have been out in the 1992 World Cup without qualifying for the semis had rain not occured in the robin?
?
New Zealand
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
What if

India and Pakistan had played as one nation

Damien Martyn wasnt born (what would happen to Linda?)

Murali was an Australian

Ian Bishop was fit and Richards was born 10 years later (So Lara and richards would play together with Walsh, Ambrose, Bishop in the bowling ranks)
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
If Pietersen had chosen to stay in South Africa he'd still probably be a mediocre spin-bowling all-rounder who batted at number 8, and would never have made the Test team. Bizarre as it is, he only became a specialist batsman in the last couple of years.
 

Burpey

Cricketer Of The Year
What if Shane Warne had never been born and MacGill had played consistently for Australia over the last ten years?
 

archie mac

International Coach
Pratyush said:
What if

India and Pakistan had played as one nation

Damien Martyn wasnt born (what would happen to Linda?)

Murali was an Australian

Ian Bishop was fit and Richards was born 10 years later (So Lara and richards would play together with Walsh, Ambrose, Bishop in the bowling ranks)
1 Would be the best in the World on occasions
2 Linda still has Burkey
3 Would never have reached Test Cricket with his action
4 Simply the best side in the World
 

archie mac

International Coach
burkey_1988 said:
What if Shane Warne had never been born and MacGill had played consistently for Australia over the last ten years?
1 Would be a very good bowler with a lot of wickets. Would be a long way behind Murali and Australia would still have been the best side in the world, but not by such a margin.
 

Burpey

Cricketer Of The Year
archie mac said:
1 Would be the best in the World on occasions
2 Linda still has Burkey
3 Would never have reached Test Cricket with his action
4 Simply the best side in the World
You should visit off topic a little more :p
 

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