Did Australia harm their ashes chances by not selecting lehmann?

sledger · 25-08-2005, 07:27 AM

just a thought i had whilst talking to pothas the other day, do you think that australia would have performed better had they not dropped Darren Lehmann from their test side? He was one of their most experienced players who also had great experience of playing on english wickets, would they have done better had they not sacked him from the side? or do you believe that it would not have made much difference and they are better off with clarke and katich in the middle order?

King_Ponting · 25-08-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sledger

just a thought i had whilst talking to pothas the other day, do you think that australia would have performed better had they not dropped Darren Lehmann from their test side? He was one of their most experienced players who also had great experience of playing on english wickets, would they have done better had they not sacked him from the side? or do you believe that it would not have made much difference and they are better off with clarke and katich in the middle order?

Better off with clarke and katich imo. lehmann, like warne has that tendency to walk accross his stumps which could easily have been exploited through out this series. katich does much the same but not to the extent of lehmann

aussie · 25-08-2005, 07:32 AM

well boofa was faling for the majority of the australian summer so his axing was justified...

vic_orthdox · 25-08-2005, 07:34 AM

Hindsight is 20/20.

Pothas · 25-08-2005, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sledger

just a thought i had whilst talking to pothas the other day, do you think that australia would have performed better had they not dropped Darren Lehmann from their test side? He was one of their most experienced players who also had great experience of playing on english wickets, would they have done better had they not sacked him from the side? or do you believe that it would not have made much difference and they are better off with clarke and katich in the middle order?

No the Australian team can hardly be accused of lacking experience and they are better of with clarke and katich i think

FaaipDeOiad · 25-08-2005, 09:24 AM

If Lehmann hadn't spent 6 months playing like a has been with the temprament of a 22 year old Damien Martyn, he would still be in the team. And yes, if he was playing as well as he can, he would be a very valuable member of the team. The way things were in India and the Australian summer, he would be a liability.

Jono · 25-08-2005, 09:37 AM

No, I think the selectors made the right move.

BoyBrumby · 25-08-2005, 11:23 AM

I'm inclined to think Hohns & co got this one right. I think the Ashes thus far has shown us that perhaps the Oz selectors tend on the side of conservatism when it comes to letting players go (obviously Dizzy was retained at least 2 tests too long & I think they've shown great patience with an obviously out-of-touch Hayden), which is understandable giving the success they've had over the last few years, but has left them with a team that is aging together.

Clarke and/or Katich will be playing test cricket for a lot longer than Lehmann would have.

magsi23 · 25-08-2005, 12:16 PM

Nah i think it was fair decsion

steds · 25-08-2005, 01:06 PM

I thought Lehmann retired from test cricket after Michael Clarke's century on debut?

steds · 25-08-2005, 01:11 PM

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I thought Lehmann retired from test cricket after Michael Clarke's century on debut?

Perhaps not

greg · 25-08-2005, 01:41 PM

I still think Symonds should be in the team. Today only confirmed that.

steds · 25-08-2005, 01:52 PM

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I still think Symonds should be in the team. Today only confirmed that.

1 off 4?

greg · 25-08-2005, 01:56 PM

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1 off 4?

lol

aussie · 25-08-2005, 05:18 PM

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I still think Symonds should be in the team. Today only confirmed that.

in all honesty i reckon he has a chance to get back into the test side in the future....

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,134	Did Australia harm their ashes chances by not selecting lehmann? just a thought i had whilst talking to pothas the other day, do you think that australia would have performed better had they not dropped Darren Lehmann from their test side? He was one of their most experienced players who also had great experience of playing on english wickets, would they have done better had they not sacked him from the side? or do you believe that it would not have made much difference and they are better off with clarke and katich in the middle order?

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FaaipDeOiad Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 18,682	If Lehmann hadn't spent 6 months playing like a has been with the temprament of a 22 year old Damien Martyn, he would still be in the team. And yes, if he was playing as well as he can, he would be a very valuable member of the team. The way things were in India and the Australian summer, he would be a liability. __________________ I know a place where a royal flush Can never beat a pair

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	I'm inclined to think Hohns & co got this one right. I think the Ashes thus far has shown us that perhaps the Oz selectors tend on the side of conservatism when it comes to letting players go (obviously Dizzy was retained at least 2 tests too long & I think they've shown great patience with an obviously out-of-touch Hayden), which is understandable giving the success they've had over the last few years, but has left them with a team that is aging together. Clarke and/or Katich will be playing test cricket for a lot longer than Lehmann would have. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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