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    Quite comical to see people claiming they wouldn't walk out of respect for the umpire. It does the umpire no favours at all. He's has to adjudicate on something he shouldn't have to with the added bonus of being made to look stupid if he gets it wrong. If you don't want to walk that's fair enough if that's how you want to play the game, but don't pretend it's for anything other than selfish reasons.

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    As long as the umpire isn't Shakoor Rana, I've always been happy to accept that a batsman is out or not out 'if in the opinion of the umpire'. walking or standing is a personal choice but i'd advocate standing and allowing the umpire to decide after all in the spirit of the game it's not whether he's 100% spot on but his opinion that matters, as an addendum DRS (dont review shane ) shows how bloody good umpires are making decisions in a split second

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    By that logic you should stand your ground if you smash it into your pads and get given lbw.
    Not in low level club cricket, no. Though umpires are very cautious at such a level.
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    Somewhat inadvertently walked in a game with panel umpires a couple weeks ago. Kind of pissed off.
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    I think walking is now an even stranger issue because of DRS. We are obviously moving forward to try and make more correct decisions to alleviate (or put more) pressure on umpires and it's odd when you can see the correct decision within several seconds but nothing can be done about it. But for every Stuart Broad nick that isn't given, there's 100 faint nicks and gloves that aren't given and there should be no difference in the reaction. Such a hypocritical view after 2013 when it honestly would come close to happening once a test match just not as obviously.

    I really don't think batsman should walk (or at least, there shouldn't be any negativity towards batsman who don't walk) but, yeah, I suppose my frustration is with decisions are immediately obvious to millions watching and wouldn't necessarily take that much time out of the game to overturn. Slipper slope and all that, though. If you overturn obvious ones, you have to check everything and it would become a farce.

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    With the DRS as it is there's no place for walking. When you have no reviews left it's a result of poor tactical play - if you review often in an attempt to get every possible wicket, you're running the risk of losing them. You had the option to be 'defensive' and save your reviews for a sure thing, but you didn't. So when a batsman stands his ground it's not outside of the game any more - it's the opposition punishing poor tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    With the DRS as it is there's no place for walking. When you have no reviews left it's a result of poor tactical play - if you review often in an attempt to get every possible wicket, you're running the risk of losing them. You had the option to be 'defensive' and save your reviews for a sure thing, but you didn't. So when a batsman stands his ground it's not outside of the game any more - it's the opposition punishing poor tactics.
    Not all reviews are created equally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    With the DRS as it is there's no place for walking. When you have no reviews left it's a result of poor tactical play - if you review often in an attempt to get every possible wicket, you're running the risk of losing them. You had the option to be 'defensive' and save your reviews for a sure thing, but you didn't. So when a batsman stands his ground it's not outside of the game any more - it's the opposition punishing poor tactics.
    This.

    DRS was designed to overturn howlers from the umpire. If you wasted your reviews 'having a look' at something daft, it's your own fault that you don't have the ability to check something more concrete later.

    Saying that, Australia and England should each get three reviews, so that they can entertain Shane Watson and Stuart Broad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    Quite comical to see people claiming they wouldn't walk out of respect for the umpire. It does the umpire no favours at all. He's has to adjudicate on something he shouldn't have to with the added bonus of being made to look stupid if he gets it wrong. If you don't want to walk that's fair enough if that's how you want to play the game, but don't pretend it's for anything other than selfish reasons.
    So I've been mistaken when believing it was the umpire's responsibility to make decisions?
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    This thread reminds me of the time I walked when given not out to an lbw decision. I'd be surprised if anyone can match that level of idiocy on a cricket field
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    So I've been mistaken when believing it was the umpire's responsibility to make decisions?
    That isn't relevant to the point I was making. If a batsman is caught in the deep or bowled he doesn't hang around waiting for the umpire to give him out, because he knows he can't get away with it. All I'm saying is if you don't walk don't pretend that you're doing it out of a moral duty to the umpire when all it's doing is making his job more difficult. Batsman don't walk if they can get away with it for no other reason than personal and team gain. To say it's out of respect for the umpire is nonsense.

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    In some sports "simulation" is a heinous crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    In some sports "simulation" is a heinous crime
    I believe that's the main reason the World Chess Championships had poor viewing figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    I believe that's the main reason the World Chess Championships had poor viewing figures.
    I thought that was because the DRS wasn't popular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    That isn't relevant to the point I was making. If a batsman is caught in the deep or bowled he doesn't hang around waiting for the umpire to give him out, because he knows he can't get away with it. All I'm saying is if you don't walk don't pretend that you're doing it out of a moral duty to the umpire when all it's doing is making his job more difficult. Batsman don't walk if they can get away with it for no other reason than personal and team gain. To say it's out of respect for the umpire is nonsense.
    So why don't you get to stand your ground when you know you've hit it into your pads and he gives you lbw?
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