*Official* 2nd ODI at Old Trafford

[Spark]

christ i hate slow decks

 

[Howe_zat]

This is why having two frontline seamers is dire. There's no strike bowler to turn to in the middle without infringing on the death overs. There's no relief. You just have to carry on like everything's fine and hope.

 

[Spark]

played some odd shots today

 

[Daemon]

Tredwell is good when batsmen decide to let him dominate and they don't move their feet to him, but if the pitch isn't turning and you are proactive and strong against him he doens't have much in his armoury to come back with

Yeah, I agree with you here, but he isn't being shown up imo. Batsmen probably know this when they come out to bat against him,so many of his wickets are them getting caught playing aggressive shots, even his best figures were based on those sort of dismissals.

 

[dermo]

**** n00fers i love me some gorgeous george

 

[NUFAN]

This is why having two frontline seamers is dire. There's no strike bowler to turn to in the middle without infringing on the death overs. There's no relief. You just have to carry on like everything's fine and hope.

On the positive side of things it means you've got a strong middle to lower order. Bopara is going to end up being the 3rd bowler now really as Stokes wont bowl out.

 

[NUFAN]

**** n00fers i love me some gorgeous george

Champion bloke in ODIs isn't he? Not sure if you read what I wrote before about how he gets out in Shield, I was just sayin' I rate George regardless.

 

[Hooksey]

Good 50 Clarke.

"Natty glasses on Joe Root"

Not sure I could face him looking like that without bursting out laughing.

 

[dermo]

Champion bloke in ODIs isn't he? Not sure if you read what I wrote before about how he gets out in Shield, I was just sayin' I rate George regardless.

nah i read it and agree with you i just love bails bailey

 

[BoyBrumby]

I think Stokes here shows the difference between speed-gun velocity and actual, proper "pace".

He's consistently up over 85mph, but the batsmen look like they could play him with a toothpick.

Admittedly it's a slow pitch, but Ravi seriously looks to have more about him.

 

[grecian]

Stokes not actually any good shocker, still I'm sure Scaly will be on to tell us he's one of the best seamers in the country, thank god for Ravi

 

[Howe_zat]

On the positive side of things it means you've got a strong middle to lower order. Bopara is going to end up being the 3rd bowler now really as Stokes wont bowl out.

Thing is, when it comes to the strength of the batting in one-dayers, the lower down the order they are, the less the extra batting counts. If Stokes comes in with a couple of overs to go, can he really do much more than a bowler having a swing? He isn't an international batsman (yet) either. Compared to the difference in bowling across a full 10-over spell, it's not much.

 

[Howe_zat]

I think Stokes here shows the difference between speed-gun velocity and actual, proper "pace".

He's consistently up over 85mph, but the batsmen look like they could play him with a toothpick.

Admittedly it's a slow pitch, but Ravi seriously looks to have more about him.

It highlights the benifit of having genuine ODI experience, afaic. Bopara's just much more efficient, no more no less.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Nah, more to it than that; Ravi getting far more through the air for starters.

 

[Burgey]

christ i hate slow decks

They're annoying, but Clarke is such a good slow wicket player imo

 

[grecian]

Our bowlers really aren't very bright are they? bowling short on this type of pitch. Can't see us getting within 50 of this.

 

[MW1304]

**** we're poor. Ravi showing up the rest of the attack as per.

 

[dermo]

england havnt shown enough intent imo

 

[grecian]

**** we're poor. Ravi showing up the rest of the attack as per.

Ravi shows up the rest of the World, because no-one is as cool as him

 

[Daemon]

Bit harsh on stokes imo, he was going pretty well, even got Clarke to edge one and Bailey to play and miss a couple until Bailey decided it was time to release some pressure by smacking an overpitched one.