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    Surprise surprise.

    Honestly, someone should put it to Hilditch that he's wasting a place. Probably a bit unkind to Hauritz I suppose to actually say that in a press-conference or wherever, but that's essentially what he's doing.

    Hauritz as a bowler offers nothing that North (and Clarke if fit) doesn't. All he does is makes sure Australia's side fits a template, because convention demands that a specialist spinner is picked.

    Yet, just a few months back, Australia picked four seamers and won two Tests. Simply beyond belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Surprise surprise.

    Honestly, someone should put it to Hilditch that he's wasting a place. Probably a bit unkind to Hauritz I suppose to actually say that in a press-conference or wherever, but that's essentially what he's doing.

    Hauritz as a bowler offers nothing that North (and Clarke if fit) doesn't. All he does is makes sure Australia's side fits a template, because convention demands that a specialist spinner is picked.

    Yet, just a few months back, Australia picked four seamers and won two Tests. Simply beyond belief.
    Correction 3 seamers & nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clapo View Post
    Hauritz gets Nielsen backing - The Ashes 2009 - Fox Sports

    Reckon we can rightly or wrongly pencil Hauritz's name into the first test, with Stuey carrying the drinks.
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    As a side note, hate the term 'Bunsen' - one of the lamest and on CW overused pieces of slang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Correction 3 seamers & nonsense.
    The guy took wickets at 20-odd and did everything asked of him, and the attack looked balanced for the first time since Warne retired. Your prejudice against McDonald is what is a nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    The guy took wickets at 20-odd and did everything asked of him, and the attack looked balanced for the first time since Warne retired.
    No way, the attack was by no means balanced. AUS haven't had a balance attack since Warne retired. SRI & IND 07/08 was the closest they came to that.

    To get a balanced attack AUS need to play 4 quicks, because thats the obvious bowling strenght. But for some stupid reason it seems like the selectors, Neilsen & possibly even Ponting are struggling to grasp that idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Your prejudice against McDonald is what is a nonsense.
    No, it has never been prejudice. I have given very solid irregovocable arguments to why he was a useless selection in the Should Brett Lee be selected for the Ashes thread. So for i am yet to hear any proper defense to why he was selected in the last 4 test or the Ashes squad.

    Theirfore to date rather, all who have defended McDonald are living in denial.

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    Seriously, if McDonald is picked for the first test I will stop supporting Australia.
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    I'm sure he won't be, but I'm sure he'll play on the later tests after Ponting and the proposed all quick attack comes badly unstuck at some point. And we'll play better with him in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    The guy took wickets at 20-odd and did everything asked of him, and the attack looked balanced for the first time since Warne retired. Your prejudice against McDonald is what is a nonsense.
    Exactly, but we should never let what actually happened get in the way of stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    No way, the attack was by no means balanced. AUS haven't had a balance attack since Warne retired. SRI & IND 07/08 was the closest they came to that.

    To get a balanced attack AUS need to play 4 quicks, because thats the obvious bowling strenght. But for some stupid reason it seems like the selectors, Neilsen & possibly even Ponting are struggling to grasp that idea.




    No, it has never been prejudice. I have given very solid irregovocable arguments to why he was a useless selection in the Should Brett Lee be selected for the Ashes thread. So for i am yet to hear any proper defense to why he was selected in the last 4 test or the Ashes squad.

    Theirfore to date rather, all who have defended McDonald are living in denial.
    You need to pick your best bowling team available at the time to have a balanced attack. We did that and won against SA. Simply really.

    You only consider your arguments 'irregovocable' because you conveniently ignore bits and pieces of the replies. If your ears weren't painted on and you displayed even a minute understanding of the game you'd possibly have recognised why he was selected.

    Therefore, to date, you've displayed nothing but an ignorance of what bowling actually involves and what seems like a bias against someone because you don't like their style of play. As has been said before, the guy's not a world-beater but he's not terrible either.

    It's easy to say 'I haven't heard any solid arguments' when you've got your fingers in your ears going 'LALALALALALALA'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inbox24 View Post
    Seriously, if McDonald is picked for the first test I will stop supporting Australia.
    Note to selectors:

    Please, please pick McDonald.

    And on the possibility of Hauritz being selected...surely not...

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    Lee, Clark, Siddle and Johnson might not work, but it has a hell of a lot more chance of working compared to anything with Hauritz or McDonald in it.
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    England squad have been announced. Harmison's not in, but Panesar is and will play ahead of Onions if the pitch suits. Bell's in as cover if any of the batters get injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    Lee, Clark, Siddle and Johnson might not work, but it has a hell of a lot more chance of working compared to anything with Hauritz or McDonald in it.
    It's almost certainly the attack that England would least want to face. And if one of them breaks down after Aus have won the first couple of tests, they won't worry too much.

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    Eughhh. The England selectors have screwed us over again. Panesar has done nothing to deserve being picked for the 13, let alone the XI. I'm just hoping that the Cardiff pitch looks green come Wednesday and they go in with Onions. Panesar couldn't get wickets against Glamorgan at Cardiff, what chance is he going to have at getting the Australian Test side out? They should have gone in with 12 and picked Samit Patel, he offers more with bat and ball combined than Bell and MSP.

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