*Official* Uruguay vs Ghana (Quarter-Final Two) - Page 6

Pothas · 02-07-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

Your whole team misses the next game if you don't use your hands though.

Exactly, it may be a horrible unjustice but it is one that most players would commit in that given situation.

Not goint blame him much but feel horribly for Ghana.

BoyBrumby · 02-07-2010, 03:56 PM

Lost a lot of sympathy from me when he behaved like such a total pansy, tbh. Footballers crying is distinctly unmanly, IMHO.

vcs · 02-07-2010, 03:58 PM

Abreu was rubbish.. but amazing guts to pull off a "Panenka" when 3 straight pens were missed!

Samuel_Vimes · 02-07-2010, 03:59 PM

remember a Scot clearing it off the line with his hands against Norway in a qualifier 4-5 years back.

Norway scored the pen and won 1-0

grecian · 02-07-2010, 04:00 PM

You know I'm normally with you on crying Brumbers, but he did seem generally overwrought, maybe I'm getting soft in my dotage, so to speak.

grecian · 02-07-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

remember a Scot clearing it off the line with his hands against Norway in a qualifier 4-5 years back.

Norway scored the pen and won 1-0

Well you expect it of them, they idolize hand-ballers.

Lillian Thomson · 02-07-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vcs

Abreu was rubbish.. but amazing guts to pull off a "Panenka" when 3 straight pens were missed!

He just watched what the keeper had been doing.......ie........jumping off his line and falling over.

Goughy · 02-07-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

If he tried to head it and missed it, surely questions would be asked about why he didn't get his hands up...

Nah, if he goes with his head and misses it there would be noone that would have asked why he didnt cheat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentstriker

I am asking if such a thing has been discussed before and if so, what was the reasoning behind the rule?

I see the logic but at the end of the day the ball didnt go in and the game is about rewarding what actually happened rather than what may have happened.

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

If the ref is allowed to start assuming things it sets a very dangerous precedent, IMHO.

Agreed. There is something to the suggestion of 'penalty goals' but it is dangerous ground and just doeant fit with the randomness and unstructured feel of football.

On a seperate note, I missed the game as I took the kids to the park

Uppercut · 02-07-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goughy

Nah, if he goes with his head and misses it there would be noone that would have asked why he didnt cheat.

Hmm. I ask that all the time, especially when someone has the chance to bring someone down at the start of a dangerous break that leads to a goal. These Uruguayans seem to like a bit of their cheating so I think he might well have been questioned on it.

marc71178 · 02-07-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

The reasoning is that, unless the whole ball crosses the line, there's no goal. Simple.

And sometimes even that's not good enough!

Lillian Thomson · 02-07-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

It's not a goal because it's not a goal

.

Just out of curiousity have you ever heard of Stuart Atwell?

Burgey · 02-07-2010, 06:47 PM

Poor Ghana. Really hoped they'd go through. Have a dislike of Uruguay after their scumbag suppirters saw fit to spit on our blokes when we went there for a qualifier for the 02 WC.

That and the way Recoba carried on here when we beat them to qualify last time.

And kudos to the fella who missed the ET penalty in stepping up first in the shootout.

Son Of Coco · 02-07-2010, 08:02 PM

Hope Uruguay get the flogging they so richly deserve after last night's game. A handball like that to deny Ghana the win deserves so much more than a red card. At least Uruguay are consistent though, they're still filthy cheating ****s.

vcs · 02-07-2010, 08:56 PM

Ghana have nothing to feel aggrieved about. Yeah, technically it was cheating but Suarez had no choice, he was duly punished, and Ghana bottled their chance to win it without penalties.

Son Of Coco · 02-07-2010, 09:15 PM

Well, it was 100% a goal with the keeper out of the frame and Suarez not being in a position to keep it out without using his hands.

They did miss the penalty, but I could understand them feeling a bit pissed off.

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vcs International Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: India Posts: 10,305	Ghana have nothing to feel aggrieved about. Yeah, technically it was cheating but Suarez had no choice, he was duly punished, and Ghana bottled their chance to win it without penalties.

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Son Of Coco Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,059	Well, it was 100% a goal with the keeper out of the frame and Suarez not being in a position to keep it out without using his hands. They did miss the penalty, but I could understand them feeling a bit pissed off.

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