No they don't have two batsmen. They have Gayle, Bravo, Simmons, Chanderpaul and Sarwan who are perfectly capable of scoring 161 in 20 overs against an average England attack.
Whoever Cries About D/L should know there is no method that is there currently that can give us a better solution. 80 of 9 overs was fair enough when u consider that Windies had to chase at 9 an over and only had 3 power play overs.
Of course in T20's the chasing team always has the advantage and in a shortened game its even more extrapolated. West Indies went crazy becuase of the shortened chase. had it been 161 they would have been a little bit more conventional. so saying England was cheated out f the SF is a classic case of sour grapes.
Colly won the toss and still elected to bat. There was not a single boundary hit in the last 9 overs till Broad came in.. So why blame the Windies here when England pretty much sucked the whole game with the exception of KP, Swann and Bopara.
I'm a bit regretful that this is all starting to deteriorate into what seems like sour grapes from us English and a bit of English - Windies name calling. It's just a bit of a sad way to go out of a tournament, that's all.
And let's not forget that the lowest Windies score off 20 overs in this tournament so far was 163 against South Africa. It's silly to pretend that 161 against England was some kind of formidable target which showed that they had been outplayed.
It would be no better had England won the game like that. West Indies might well have chased 162 and won a fair match- a lot of people here fancied them to do it- but we'll never know.
I don't think for a moment that 80 off 9 overs is in any way equivalent to 161 off 20 overs, given that you can still afford to lose 9 wickets in that time.
As for "only 3 powerplays", it's more (pro rata) than you get in a full 20 over innings.
Anyway, Colly did deserve it for batting first, so I'm blaming him, above all TBH. Yet (D/L) is skewed for chasing teams, and really should be sorted out before it knocks out a good team
EDIT: We do only have one good batsman in this form of the game, may have been different if we'd played trott or napier.
Last edited by grecian; 15-06-2009 at 03:07 PM.
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Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.
Think of it this way. If someone invented a cart with square wheels, and round wheels hadn't been thought of yet, most people would think it to be an idiotic invention. The fact that no one had thought of a better alternative to the square-wheeled cart at that point doesn't make it any good. Nor does it mean that there will never be a better alternative; eventually someone will think of round wheels.
I don't think D/L is as idiotic as square wheels, but nor do I think it can't or shouldn't be improved upon. Accepting it as gospel and shouting down anyone who dares question it is narrow-minded. I'm a WI fan for the record, so hopefully you can realise that it's not a case of 'whinging'.
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