Greatest European Footballer ? - Page 2

Craig · 14-06-2006, 12:45 AM

Didn't Di Stefano come from Argentina?

Other names I would chuck in Giacinto Facchetti (named in a all-time Franz Beckenbauer XI), Giuseppe Meazza, Dino Zoff, Gunnar Nordhal (225 goals in 291 games in Serie A for Roma and Milan, and is the highest foregin goal scorer in Italy), Lev Yashin.

Pedro Delgado · 14-06-2006, 01:59 AM

Most have been mentioned already really. Der Kaiser and Mattheus were two of my particular favourites.

And yeah Di Stefano was an Argie.

luckyeddie · 14-06-2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Didn't Di Stefano come from Argentina?

Yes - played international football for 3 different countries (Colombia as well as Argentina and Spain)

Slats4ever · 14-06-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luckyeddie

IMO, Moore is the greatest defender the world's ever seen (Beckenbauer next best), and Puskas probably Europe's most complete attacking player.

now come on!!! trying to steal andrew symonds was one thing...
but trying to claim that craig moore is english!!!! Please

luckyeddie · 14-06-2006, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Slats4ever

now come on!!! trying to steal andrew symonds was one thing...
but trying to claim that craig moore is english!!!! Please

Sorry.

My mistake.

Slats4ever · 14-06-2006, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by luckyeddie

Sorry.

My mistake.

lol... that's ok... don't make the same mistake again... ever

JASON · 14-06-2006, 03:19 AM

Karl Heinz Rumenigge of Germany (not sure if its spelt correctly )

David Beckham (if England fulfil their promise and win this World Cup)

Goughy · 14-06-2006, 04:04 PM

I certainly would not put him along side some of the others but it should be pointed out that King Kev won 2 back-to-back European Player of the Year awards.

No other English players has and Im not sure how many other Euros have.

EDIT: Cruyff- 73 & 74, Platini- 83 & 84 & 85 and Van Basten 88 & 89.

Keegan did it in 78 & 79

Goughy · 14-06-2006, 04:09 PM

I found it interesting that the other day I asked 2 Dutch guys (who are in their mid-late 30's and very good football players themselves), who is now generally considered the greatest, Cruyff or Gullit? They both laughed and said Van Basten.

That surprised me. Van Basten was no doubt fantastic but they insisted he was the best of the great generation and that put him to the top of the list.

Pothas · 14-06-2006, 04:12 PM

Im guessing by this they we are not including Eusabio? He did play for portugal so should considerd

Zidane is the best of this generation there can be no doubt of that.

TT Boy · 14-06-2006, 04:14 PM

Not going to mention players I have never seen play so Hristo Stoitchkov, gets my vote. Can not think of a better or more majestic left foot in European football. Never did it for club but he carried Bulgaria and single handily took them to the semi finals of the World Cup, one in a million.

Other notable players of my generation

Roberto Baggio
Gheorghe Hagi
Zinedine Zidane

Pothas · 14-06-2006, 04:16 PM

Hagi he was a great player, Paulo Maldini brilliant player for so long.

steds · 14-06-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pothas

Im guessing by this they we are not including Eusabio? He did play for portugal so should considerd

I didn't mention him because he's from Mozambique.

Being from a colony of a European country != being European, in my eyes.

Goughy · 14-06-2006, 04:26 PM

A guy who was a great player when I was growing up who seems very much forgotten and seldom mentioned nowadays is JP Papin.

He was a wonderful player. Was European Player of the Year in 1991, led the French League in scoring 5 years in a row. Very good international record.

Also part of teams winning Champions League (European Cup), UEFA Cup, Serie A, French League, Olympics + many others.

Im not saying he was close to the best ever but Id like him to be talked about more and not forgotten.

TT Boy · 14-06-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Goughy

A guy who was a great player when I was growing up who seems very much forgotten and seldom mentioned nowadays is JP Papin.

He was a wonderful player. Was European Player of the Year in 1991, led the French League in scoring 5 years in a row. Very good international record.

Also part of teams winning Champions League (European Cup), UEFA Cup, Serie A, French League, Olympics + many others.

Im not saying he was close to the best ever but Id like him to be talked about more and not forgotten.

Was going to mention him but he was just a tad before my time, saw him coming to the end of his Milan career and with France's failure to qualify for Italy and USA his best was never seen on the worldwide stage.

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Goughy International Coach Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: All Over Posts: 14,638	I found it interesting that the other day I asked 2 Dutch guys (who are in their mid-late 30's and very good football players themselves), who is now generally considered the greatest, Cruyff or Gullit? They both laughed and said Van Basten. That surprised me. Van Basten was no doubt fantastic but they insisted he was the best of the great generation and that put him to the top of the list.

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Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,437	Im guessing by this they we are not including Eusabio? He did play for portugal so should considerd Zidane is the best of this generation there can be no doubt of that.

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TT Boy Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: . Posts: 16,321	Not going to mention players I have never seen play so Hristo Stoitchkov, gets my vote. Can not think of a better or more majestic left foot in European football. Never did it for club but he carried Bulgaria and single handily took them to the semi finals of the World Cup, one in a million. Other notable players of my generation Roberto Baggio Gheorghe Hagi Zinedine Zidane

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Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,437	Hagi he was a great player, Paulo Maldini brilliant player for so long.

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Goughy International Coach Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: All Over Posts: 14,638	A guy who was a great player when I was growing up who seems very much forgotten and seldom mentioned nowadays is JP Papin. He was a wonderful player. Was European Player of the Year in 1991, led the French League in scoring 5 years in a row. Very good international record. Also part of teams winning Champions League (European Cup), UEFA Cup, Serie A, French League, Olympics + many others. Im not saying he was close to the best ever but Id like him to be talked about more and not forgotten.

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