The England Thread

[Matteh]

Originally Posted by Tom Halsey

Agreed that to appoint a new manager now would be bonkers, but I had previously had a feeling that he might stay (I hoped he wouldn't).

However, due to his latest screw up, I now don't see it at all.

He's been wanting to manage a club again for the last year...

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by luckyeddie

He'll go immediately after the World Cup - and for the last year, that's always going to have been the case.

To try to appoint a new manager now would be absolutely bonkers.

Not really, England need Rooney to play like a god to have any sort of chance under the vegetable. The chances frankly go up if you randomly replace him with any manager from in the English league. The vegetable has already shown he's not up to it, at least we don't know yet which other managers in the English league aren't up to it.

[Tom Halsey]

Originally Posted by Matteh

He's been wanting to manage a club again for the last year...

There's been reports of it for way, way over a year. Has he left yet? No.

As I said, I doubt the FA'll poke up with him after thw World CUp though.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Not really, England need Rooney to play like a god to have any sort of chance under the vegetable. The chances frankly go up if you randomly replace him with any manager from in the English league. The vegetable has already shown he's not up to it, at least we don't know yet which other managers in the English league aren't up to it.

Pure and utter rubbish.

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by marc71178

Pure and utter rubbish.

What happened in the last 2 tournaments? Brazil are better than they were 4 years ago and England won't get teams even as bad as Portugal to knock themselves out against. If England do anything it will be in spite of the vegetable.

[luckyeddie]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

What happened in the last 2 tournaments? Brazil are better than they were 4 years ago and England won't get teams even as bad as Portugal to knock themselves out against. If England do anything it will be in spite of the vegetable.

I honestly thought that you were intelligent (still do, really) - but continually calling the manager 'The Vegetable' just because he's a Swede is just like calling ........

(looks in mirror)

Carry on.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

What happened in the last 2 tournaments? Brazil are better than they were 4 years ago and England won't get teams even as bad as Portugal to knock themselves out against. If England do anything it will be in spite of the vegetable.

In 2002 we had a half fit squad (or is that Eriksson's fault as well)

In 2004 there were various things like the referee and another injury that you for seem reason blame Eriksson for as well.

It's funny how at one point you say that he has the strongest squad for a long time, but at the same time you say that they need Rooney to play like a god to have any chance.

Need to make up your mind which it is.

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by marc71178

In 2002 we had a half fit squad (or is that Eriksson's fault as well)

In 2004 there were various things like the referee and another injury that you for seem reason blame Eriksson for as well.

It's funny how at one point you say that he has the strongest squad for a long time, but at the same time you say that they need Rooney to play like a god to have any chance.

Need to make up your mind which it is.

They need Rooney to play like a god because the vegetable is such a bad manager. With a good manager they wouldn't mess up a 1-0 lead against a team that has a poor defense and wasn't stringing 3 passes together. With a bad manager you need individual brilliance because the qualities coming from a good well knit unit won't exist (you'll be a clueless/disorganised team playing well below squad potential because you have a bad manager).

[Tom Halsey]

Originally Posted by marc71178

In 2002 we had a half fit squad (or is that Eriksson's fault as well)

In 2004 there were various things like the referee and another injury that you for seem reason blame Eriksson for as well.

What you say way well be true about 2002, but if you really want a manager who, when things are clearly going badly wrong, sits there emotionless, and doesn't make even 1 tactical change, then you're in the minority.

In 2004, the tactics were clearly all wrong, whether the ref was crap or not, and if we had have won 2-1 it would have been fortunate.

[Pratters]

Originally Posted by marc71178

Pure and utter rubbish.

So just because you disagree with the view it becomes utter rubbish?

[aussie]

Originally Posted by luckyeddie

He'll go immediately after the World Cup - and for the last year, that's always going to have been the case.

To try to appoint a new manager now would be absolutely bonkers.

well he has said win or lose after the WC he will go, but i wonder who will take over from him since i reckon most of the players seem to like him a fair lot as coach.

[Agent TBY]

I have a feeling that has changed.

[luckyeddie]

Originally Posted by aussie

well he has said win or lose after the WC he will go, but i wonder who will take over from him since i reckon most of the players seem to like him a fair lot as coach.

Well, the likely candidates (at least according to one paper I've read) are Curbishley, MacLaren, Allardyce and Pearce.

Steve MacLaren WAS flavour of the month last season, but his halo has slipped of late.
Stuart Pearce, as he himself admits, is a laughable idea.
Alan Curbishley or Sam Allardyce are both logical choices, but I'd look to Martin O'Neill as my No 1 choice.

It won't happen either if Sven doesn't want to go, because with his contract not actually due to end until 2008, it could conceivably cost the FA about 6 million quid in compensation.

[superkingdave]

Allardyce for mine

wouldn't be too fussed if Beckham retired from international football after the WC

[Tom Halsey]

Originally Posted by superkingdave

Allardyce for mine

I hope not, very shrewd club manager, and one of the best arounbd atm, but I don't like the idea of him being England manager.

Out of the 4 English guys LE mentioned, I'd have Curbishley any day of the week.

Originally Posted by superkingdave

wouldn't be too fussed if Beckham retired from international football after the WC

I'd be celebrating.