'Official' Semi Final 2 - Pakistan v India

[cricpk]

Cricket | "Do not expect Pakistan to beat India" | ESPNSTAR.com

Manjrekar...

I may agree with him that Pakistan are undisciplined. But HE DOESN'T ECPEXT THEM TO BEAT MIGHT INDIANS, I don't agree with him.
Man they lost to South Africa, They drew with England. & he further says indian team was tested for the first time in the Semi Final. Rating his way tooooooooooooooooo high.

I just found out on youtube that How they are making it a one sided affair in the media.

 

[cricpk]

I don't really care where Pakistan are to be perfectly honest, I won't make any bones about it. This match is all about us, if we go out there and execute out skills like we did against Australia then no matter who they put on the park, we will win.

Same is with us. Who cares about Inddia. All we need to do is to play to our strengths, No team can match our skills.

(By the way i'm just spicing up this thread)

 

[smash84]

(By the way i'm just spicing up this thread)

nah.......you are just speaking the plain truth

 

[cricpk]

nah.......you are just speaking the plain truth

What about Bowling line up? I heard some saying that Pakistan should go with three fast bowlers i-e Shoaib, Gul & Wahab. And play Afridi as specialist Spinner, with Hafeez & Abdul Razzaq to help completing 50 overs. What do you guys say?

 

[smash84]

What about Bowling line up? I heard some saying that Pakistan should go with three fast bowlers i-e Shoaib, Gul & Wahab. And play Afridi as specialist Spinner, with Hafeez & Abdul Razzaq to help completing 50 overs. What do you guys say?

That isn't a bad idea if the wicket suits pace bowlers somewhat. However I would like Ajmal to play. He is a good attacking bowler and although he has played only 3 matches against India he has a good record against them. Going in with only 1 specialist spinner on Indian pitches might be a recipe for disaster as Australia found out.

I think Akhtar, Razzaq, and Gul should be fine with the pace duties and Afridi, Ajmal, and Hafeez with spin. This attack looks pretty decent.

 

[Xuhaib]

What about Bowling line up? I heard some saying that Pakistan should go with three fast bowlers i-e Shoaib, Gul & Wahab. And play Afridi as specialist Spinner, with Hafeez & Abdul Razzaq to help completing 50 overs. What do you guys say?

Khuda ka khuaff karo no Wahab please he will get murdered by Sehwag and Yuvi.

 

[silentstriker]

I don't see how anyone can 'expect' India to beat Pakistan or vice versa. If you take India's lackluster attack, and combine it with the occasional brilliance and occasional direness of Pakistan, literally anything can happen. It could be close, or either side could dominate. And neither would really be surprising.

The bookies will be going crazy with business, but I'd never bet on this contest.

 

[cricpk]

That isn't a bad idea if the wicket suits pace bowlers somewhat. However I would like Ajmal to play. He is a good attacking bowler and although he has played only 3 matches against India he has a good record against them. Going in with only 1 specialist spinner on Indian pitches might be a recipe for disaster as Australia found out.

I think Akhtar, Razzaq, and Gul should be fine with the pace duties and Afridi, Ajmal, and Hafeez with spin. This attack looks pretty decent.

Wahab riaz can be good against left hand batsmen. I like his in coming balls to Left Hand batsmen. So he can take care of Yuvraj, Ghambir & Raina. Saeed Ajmal can also be good against Left Hand Batsmen. But it will depend on what type of pitch we get, If it is a road then i would like to see Wahab Riaz in the side rather than saeed ajmal. He should be given a roll of bowling yorkers for all 10 overs.

 

[cricpk]

Khuda ka khuaff karo no Wahab please he will get murdered by Sehwag and Yuvi.

Sehwag yeah Wahab is a risk against him but I don't mind Wahab bowling to Yuvraj, Raina & Ghambir.

 

[smash84]

The bookies will be going crazy with business, but I'd never bet on this contest.

haha......me neither.....too risky

Khuda ka khuaff karo

we as a nation seriously lack this

 

[Xuhaib]

cricpk, Ajmal has been our best bowler vs India in the last 2 odi's its a big risk to drop him against them.

 

[smash84]

Wahab riaz can be good against left hand batsmen. I like his in coming balls to Left Hand batsmen. So he can take care of Yuvraj, Ghambir & Raina. Saeed Ajmal can also be good against Left Hand Batsmen. But it will depend on what type of pitch we get, If it is a road then i would like to see Wahab Riaz in the side rather than saeed ajmal. He should be given a roll of bowling yorkers for all 10 overs.

you like his incoming balls (and outgoing)

he has a fantastic yorker but for some reason I have not seen him bowl those at all in the two games that he has played so far

 

[angad]

I may agree with him that Pakistan are undisciplined. But HE DOESN'T ECPEXT THEM TO BEAT MIGHT INDIANS, I don't agree with him.
Man they lost to South Africa, They drew with England. & he further says indian team was tested for the first time in the Semi Final. Rating his way tooooooooooooooooo high.

I just found out on youtube that How they are making it a one sided affair in the media.

Sanjay Manjrekar is moron, oppurtunist, so far none of his prediction has come true. Also we Indians hate him too, he was actually very anti-India/Pro Pak in commentary, holds grudge against Sachin, can't hide his jealousy reallizing he was rated so high in early 90s, but destiny had differant plans. Even Ramiz Raja corrected him so many times regarding criticism of Sachin on Ten Sports. Now he seems to have switched sides, has no other options really, Sachin is scoring millions of runs since 2007WC, made him to eat his words.

 

[Xuhaib]

actually was watching an old Indian game on Star and Manjrekar had a horrible technique don't understand why he was so highly rated back in those days.

 

[smash84]

Sanjay Manjrekar is moron, oppurtunist, so far none of his prediction has come true. Also we Indians hate him too, he was actually very anti-India/Pro Pak in commentary, holds grudge against Sachin, can't hide his jealousy reallizing he was rated so high in early 90s, but destiny had differant plans. Even Ramiz Raja corrected him so many times regarding criticism of Sachin on Ten Sports. Now he seems to have switched sides, has no other options really, Sachin is scoring millions of runs since 2007WC, made him to eat his words.

Actually I thought I was the only one who noticed that but apparently so do other people. I thought Sanjay used to be quite pro Pak in his initial days, more so than other commentators, but in recent times he has gone in the completely opposite direction.

It does seem at least somebody else also has noticed it

 

[cricpk]

Sanjay Manjrekar is moron, oppurtunist, so far none of his prediction has come true. Also we Indians hate him too, he was actually very anti-India/Pro Pak in commentary, holds grudge against Sachin, can't hide his jealousy reallizing he was rated so high in early 90s, but destiny had differant plans. Even Ramiz Raja corrected him so many times regarding criticism of Sachin on Ten Sports. Now he seems to have switched sides, has no other options really, Sachin is scoring millions of runs since 2007WC, made him to eat his words.

i actually am shocked that why someone would say such things with so much assurity when he knows its an India VS Pakistan match. Even If Pakistan were 5 times stronger than India, i would never call it a one sided match. It might turn out to be one sided match but i wouldn't risk saying things which can make me speechless after the actual game.

 

[Shri]

People have to realize that an Indian pitch 'good' for fast bowlers just means the ball comes on to the bat more freely. The average swing bowlers still won't find much help, you either have to be world class or have good pace and should be a hit the deck kind of a bowler who relies on sharp bounce to get wickets. Wouldn't be surprised if Zaheer is expensive in the SF. Expecting a high scoring game if Pakistan play 3 fast bowlers.

 

[smash84]

People have to realize that an Indian pitch 'good' for fast bowlers just means the ball comes on to the bat more freely. The average swing bowlers still won't find much help, you either have to be world class or have good pace and should be a hit the deck kind of a bowler who relies on sharp bounce to get wickets. Wouldn't be surprised if Zaheer is expensive in the SF. Expecting a high scoring game if Pakistan play 3 fast bowlers.

So you think playing more options is a better strategy in Mohali????

 

[Bun]

India's issue is that they have everything at stake, and an opponent who are just playing brave, a tad mindless, and carefree cricket without much to lose, if not nothing at all.

 

[Shri]

So you think playing more options is a better strategy in Mohali????

Yeah. Harbhajan always does well in pitches that have a bit of bounce in 'em too. India can bowl 40 overs safely with Zak, Bhajji, AshWIN and Yuvraj. The team with the better batsmen will win imo.(ie, India)