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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Haha. Just the other day everyone was saying how refreshing it was to hear Dhoni (iirc) say Sreesanth has to up his game. We can't have it both ways - bag standard cliche speak then bag them when they speak their minds.

    It's not like Ponting has been out there excluding himself from criticism either.

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    Ponting has hardly been one to hide from criticism when he's gone through run droughts as well... really can't see what TT Boy's point is TBH. He's doing his job as a captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    But Sreesanth is crap thus an easy target. Bhaji was useless for 2 years but never heard a peep out of Dhoni about him or any comments about Dravid's form either. Also Haddin seems a strange target, what about Cam White?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    Where did I say we're completely blowing them off? In the other thread I said we'd get to the semis.

    The point is, as you say, is that the Australian batsmen are not in good form, in fact they're in much worse form than in the CT, and we're minus Hussey. On pitches likely to take turn, against Zimbabwe's spin-based attack, then this -



    seems like you've misunderstood the situation.

    Again, though, let's see what happens tonight.
    Mate... first you make-up your mind, on one hand you are saying we are likely to struggle against the Zimbabwean spinners then on the other hand you are saying we will make it into the semis..!!

    It kind of just doesn't add up, if we are so bad that we are gonna struggle against Zimbabwean spinners then obviously there is no way we are beating New Zealand, Sri Lanka or Pakistan either.

    Also as I said a while ago, I really don't expect the ball to turn much in India apart from maybe at Delhi; most wickets in India are gonna be flat and true and its only in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka where we could expect big turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    Where did I say we're completely blowing them off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    But Sreesanth is crap thus an easy target. Bhaji was useless for 2 years but never heard a peep out of Dhoni about him or any comments about Dravid's form either. Also Haddin seems a strange target, what about Cam White?
    Don't disagree with you, I'm just saying we can't want candour then bag them when they give us just that.

    White's been terrible though, hasn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Don't disagree with you, I'm just saying we can't want candour then bag them when they give us just that.

    White's been terrible though, hasn't he?
    Had a near free pass from everyone bar here. It seems to have gone completely unnoticed that he hasn't made a 50 in something like 9 innings, which is starting to get into the "uh oh" territory (but not quite into the "wtf" territory of 18+ months, eh KP?). That for me is much more of a worry than Dussey (who is finally beginning to learn how to score international runs it would seem) and Smith.

    Mind you, I wouldn't even think about dropping him. He's much too important a cog in our wheel for that. The one good thing about the long, long group stages is that it's good for getting blokes into nick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    Mate... first you make-up your mind, on one hand you are saying we are likely to struggle against the Zimbabwean spinners then on the other hand you are saying we will make it into the semis..!!

    It kind of just doesn't add up, if we are so bad that we are gonna struggle against Zimbabwean spinners then obviously there is no way we are beating New Zealand, Sri Lanka or Pakistan either.

    Also as I said a while ago, I really don't expect the ball to turn much in India apart from maybe at Delhi; most wickets in India are gonna be flat and true and its only in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka where we could expect big turn.
    If Lee and Tait bowl well it won't matter how Zimbabwe bowl inthis game.

    Different story in the other matches though, and I am looking forward to seeing the Zimbabwe spinners in action. Actually, looking forward to seeing the whole Zimbob side. It's been too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Wasting good form is far less forgivable a sin than not being in form.
    Who's more sinful is a completely different argument to whose place should be under threat and/or whose doing more damage to the team, though.

    It's not a fair world but if you're in form more often, you can afford to waste it more often. Haddin's very rarely out of touch (much less so than White, despite being an inferior LO batsman) which makes his contribution frustrating, but there's a difference between frustrating and damaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Who's more sinful is a completely different argument to whose place should be under threat and/or whose doing more damage to the team, though.

    It's not a fair world but if you're in form more often, you can afford to waste it more often. Haddin's very rarely out of touch (much less so than White, despite being an inferior LO batsman) which makes his contribution frustrating, but there's a difference between frustrating and damaging.
    Hmm, we're not talking about that though. In terms of getting a bit of a dressing down from the captain, it's the guy wasting starts that I'd concentrate on first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Hmm, we're not talking about that though. In terms of getting a bit of a dressing down from the captain, it's the guy wasting starts that I'd concentrate on first.
    Yeah I just read Page 3 properly and realised my point was irrelevant; ignore me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah I just read Page 3 properly and realised my point was irrelevant; ignore me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    Mate... first you make-up your mind, on one hand you are saying we are likely to struggle against the Zimbabwean spinners then on the other hand you are saying we will make it into the semis..!!

    It kind of just doesn't add up, if we are so bad that we are gonna struggle against Zimbabwean spinners then obviously there is no way we are beating New Zealand, Sri Lanka or Pakistan either.

    Also as I said a while ago, I really don't expect the ball to turn much in India apart from maybe at Delhi; most wickets in India are gonna be flat and true and its only in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka where we could expect big turn.
    You're turning this into a joke. You do realise it's possible to win this game (and others) while struggling against the spinners? Whether it's Swann, Botha, Ajmal, Yardy, van der Merwe... we generally sturggle, it's a well-known fact. If the pitches are turning square, or not at all, there's not a lot of difference.

    You said you disagreed with my post in the Australia Discussion thread. I don't understand how you disagree with it if you didn't read it properly, or maybe you're just reading what you want to hear. I suggested that we'll struggle all the way through the tournament, before (finally) departing in the semis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    Far out, just bring on the cricket.
    Infract that man!

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    Way ahead of you.

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