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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    How good would an India/Pakistan final be? Up for it tbh.
    It would be very good and i believe it will be close.
    In contrast an Au-Pak final would be one sided, just like '99 WC

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    Good luck to any Team that has to play Australia in the Final....Whe was the last time Australia lost in a final ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
    Good luck to any Team that has to play Australia in the Final....Whe was the last time Australia lost in a final ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by biased indian View Post
    agree with you i have afeeling the winner of the tournamnet will be from the
    IND VS AUS semi

    but you never know its pakistan wht u r talking about
    Well Pakistan haven't suffered a defeat in this tour yet (match against India being a tie) and i cannot imagine Pakistan ending a tour without a defeat.

    Whoever wins the hard fought India-Aus semis is more likely to win the tour.


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    I can't understand why are you guys are underestimating the Black caps, yeah i know they are semi-final specialists but this is a different format and the definitely can beat Pakistan on any given day.
    But i agree whoever wins the Indo-Aussie tie would probably go on to win this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    I can't understand why are you guys are underestimating the Black caps, yeah i know they are semi-final specialists but this is a different format and the definitely can beat Pakistan on any given day.
    But i agree whoever wins the Indo-Aussie tie would probably go on to win this tournament.
    They can certainly beat Pak , but i think Pak is much more stronger than Kiwis.However if Pakistan comes up with a similar performance (as the one displayed in last match against bang), then Kiwis will win the semis with ease.

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    fear the worst for India, really...

    Haven't seen them manage to keep up the intensity for a number of matches in a row, thisIndian side...
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    fear the worst for India, really...
    Same here.

    I am afraid their luck will run out big time. If it holds against Australia (the big big big test) anything can happen.

    They have issues with Sreesanth. He is not only inconsistent he maybe affected by his relative lack of success compared to RP. The guy is very fragile tempramentally and I dont see a senior who can calm him down.

    Another issue is Harbhajan. He started brainlessly with flatish deliveries in his first over and kept going for runs. Hasn't he been watching this tournament and whats been happening when spinners come on. Cant he learn from what Vettori is doing. I hope he will slow down on the pace he puts on his stock delivery.

    My third issue is Dhoni. Someone has written somewhere here about Dhoni's consistency in this tournament. I am amazed that once a hero we are so blind. The guy has been batting in what can be called 'test match mode' in this format. He has easily the worst strike rate of all major batsmen in the entire tournament. He has played more deliveries than most and has what, two sixes. I am not saying sixes are the only way to go but its an indicator to whats happened to him.

    There isnt a single innings of fire and thats been the case from the beginning of this English sunner. In the last couple of innings he has stopped trying those fancy "Dhoni specials" which dont go anywhere but are all strength and work and yet he isnt able to make the ball say 'ouch, I am hit". There is something wrong with him as faras batting goes and I wish we had a batting coach to talk to him.

    I think that maybe, just maybe, Dhoni realises that he is having a problem hence his reluctance to go higher himself. But India needs him to fire on all cylinders. I hope it all falls together for him against Australia. That will be the boost we need.

    Who will they drop with Yuvraj coming back for the semi final ?

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    Australiasia to beat Subcontinent

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    Same here.

    I am afraid their luck will run out big time. If it holds against Australia (the big big big test) anything can happen.

    They have issues with Sreesanth. He is not only inconsistent he maybe affected by his relative lack of success compared to RP. The guy is very fragile tempramentally and I dont see a senior who can calm him down.

    Another issue is Harbhajan. He started brainlessly with flatish deliveries in his first over and kept going for runs. Hasn't he been watching this tournament and whats been happening when spinners come on. Cant he learn from what Vettori is doing. I hope he will slow down on the pace he puts on his stock delivery.

    My third issue is Dhoni. Someone has written somewhere here about Dhoni's consistency in this tournament. I am amazed that once a hero we are so blind. The guy has been batting in what can be called 'test match mode' in this format. He has easily the worst strike rate of all major batsmen in the entire tournament. He has played more deliveries than most and has what, two sixes. I am not saying sixes are the only way to go but its an indicator to whats happened to him.

    There isnt a single innings of fire and thats been the case from the beginning of this English sunner. In the last couple of innings he has stopped trying those fancy "Dhoni specials" which dont go anywhere but are all strength and work and yet he isnt able to make the ball say 'ouch, I am hit". There is something wrong with him as faras batting goes and I wish we had a batting coach to talk to him.

    I think that maybe, just maybe, Dhoni realises that he is having a problem hence his reluctance to go higher himself. But India needs him to fire on all cylinders. I hope it all falls together for him against Australia. That will be the boost we need.

    Who will they drop with Yuvraj coming back for the semi final ?
    most probably Karthik... which is a shame because no one really knows why he was dropped (he had a better strike rate than even Dhoni, for God's sakes and scored almost as much as him in that game)... He was dropped to bring in Sharma and then he came back because Yuvi was injured and straightaway he is sent in at 3 even though Uthappa (an opener, no less) and Dhoni were in good form and he gets a first baller which could have happened to anyone and now he is gonna be dropped... Strange are the ways of Indian cricket.


    And you are spot on about Dhoni but honestly it has just become too tiring for me to say the same thing about him in every Indian thread. He is not the batsman he once was/promised to be and the sooner we all realize that, the better... Although the last game, the signs were somewhat better than they previously were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    And you are spot on about Dhoni but honestly it has just become too tiring for me to say the same thing about him in every Indian thread. .
    You are right but you know what, it is even more tiring to see how the hero-worshipping fans keep writing about how him as if he is doing a fantastic job , as a batsman, in England and now in the world cup.

    I think Dhoni has the potential of being a remarkable batsman but what I find frustrating is how we are so blind when it comes to those we put on a pedestal.

    There was a time when people wouldn't heara word against Tendulkar, now Sachin cant seem to do anything right for them. Ganguly was once devil incarnate, now he has a pedestal of his own from which you just cant shake him. I wish people would be more objective about our stars and then we would be able to appreciate them much better inspite of their failings and of course the cricket deabte would be so much more enjoyable.

    And as I wrote earlier he seems to be batting better for the last couple of innings and I do hope it will all come together in the semi finals and then we will have a game.

    I am surprised he isn't sending himself higher in the order in this format. We are sick and tired of public and media raving about the injustice done by Dravid and company by not sending him higher up. Well here is a format which is so suitable for that and he is the one who decided the batting order. Whats happening.

    I would love to see him at four, not lower, in the semi finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz View Post
    Australiasia to beat Subcontinent

    Australia vs NZ Final
    Any odds you are offering on both India and Pakistan losing the semis ?

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    ^not really lol.. i am probably tipping Pakistan vs Australia but i am hoping for Australia vs NZ

    well tomorrow is the first time Aussies will have played at Durban.... so i havent seen any of the matches there but from what ive seen (scorecards) they are good for bowlers .. swing?

    good for Lee, Bracken i suppose.. but the indian bowlers wont be easy either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz View Post
    ^not really lol.. i am probably tipping Pakistan vs Australia but i am hoping for Australia vs NZ

    well tomorrow is the first time Aussies will have played at Durban.... so i havent seen any of the matches there but from what ive seen (scorecards) they are good for bowlers .. swing?

    good for Lee, Bracken i suppose.. but the indian bowlers wont be easy either
    I would put my money on NZL and AUS though I will be rooting for India and Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPowered View Post
    Well Pakistan haven't suffered a defeat in this tour yet (match against India being a tie) and i cannot imagine Pakistan ending a tour without a defeat.

    Whoever wins the hard fought India-Aus semis is more likely to win the tour.
    Sure I also agree with that.
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