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Windies Team Discussion, and Other Related Things Thread

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Being a West Indies fan in 2025 means having to follow 3 beat downs on one Sunday....

I get back from an event, switch on the TV and check k my phone. The senior team is 70/1 after 8, the A team 40 without loss and the academy 190/4.

I then watch the A team and the academy immediately collapse and Johnson Charles play a match losing innings.

All I can say is thank goodness the women played yesterday.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Australia touring and a Roston Chase captaincy does not bode particularly well for the prospects of this changing.

My only hope for any enjoyment is a complete curveball from Sammy and a revamped batting side for tests. But let's see.
 

WICFan

State 12th Man
Australia touring and a Roston Chase captaincy does not bode particularly well for the prospects of this changing.

My only hope for any enjoyment is a complete curveball from Sammy and a revamped batting side for tests. But let's see.
I think it'll be more of the same unfortunately, it's a mess.
 

LangleyburyCCPlayer

State Vice-Captain
Australia touring and a Roston Chase captaincy does not bode particularly well for the prospects of this changing.

My only hope for any enjoyment is a complete curveball from Sammy and a revamped batting side for tests. But let's see.
Maybe the Windies management see some kind of hitherto unknown leadership qualities in Chase a la Mike Brearley, because he is no Garfield Sobers or Imran Khan…
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
I can't defend the man. He only cares about himself and the big bag. What a waste of one of the most talented batters of this generation.

West Indies is now basically a glorified pathway system for franchise cricket. There's no point in pretending we're anything else anymore.

International cricket is broken.
 

ImpatientLime

International Regular
Treacherous behaviour. He wasn't playing tests, he was being given time away from the ODI set up before inevitably being asked to play the WC qualifiers.

The man was only being asked to turn up for T20is and he still can't be bothered to do that.

A supremely talented player with a completely nothing career.

Let's see how much world cricket really needs a strong West Indies once more of these players call it quits on the maroon.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Treacherous behaviour. He wasn't playing tests, he was being given time away from the ODI set up before inevitably being asked to play the WC qualifiers.

The man was only being asked to turn up for T20is and he still can't be bothered to do that.

A supremely talented player with a completely nothing career.

Let's see how much world cricket really needs a strong West Indies once more of these players call it quits on the maroon.
Jason Holder may well be next. Possibly Hety. Rutherford is hopefully too young. This could be the straw that broke the camels back.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Jason Holder may well be next. Possibly Hety. Rutherford is hopefully too young. This could be the straw that broke the camels back.
At least Holder has put in a decent International shift in all formats. Astonished to see that Pooran has only ever played 5 FC matches, he's now just 2 shy of 400 T20's. Even Hetmyer's record looks balanced and acceptable in comparison.
 

JOJOXI

International Captain
Jason Holder may well be next. Possibly Hety. Rutherford is hopefully too young. This could be the straw that broke the camels back.
Echo Molehill's sentiments. Holder I'd have some sympathy for - gave a lot to West Indies Cricket as captain for a decent while and I'm not sure he ever had the backing that Pooran had - both from public and board giving him so much leeway to pick and choose tours until very recently.

I don't think having countries play individually rather than as West Indies is the answer (big chance WI cricket as a whole fades into associate cricket) but I do wonder if it would discourage such acts. I presume Pooran will still be well received in Trinidad in a way he might not be if he walked out on Trinidad Cricket rather than WI Cricket.
 

Silver Silva

International Vice-Captain
I think ICC needs to sit down with the test nations, and strengthen the NOC contract rule , all the T20 leagues held in test nations can only use foreign players if their boards have given permission to allow them to play , it doesn't matter if they retired or active . Because now decisions like the one Pooran has made is a threat to the survival of cricket in his playing nation. In fact make all t20 leagues outside of test nation jurisdiction as ones that are not recognized in stats by ICC if they are using these rebels.

If they want to be T20 mercenaries let them miss out on the big T20 leagues like IPL , BigBash , T20 Blast , they must be banned from playing in their own countries also.

We as fans must stop making excuses for them , "Oh they doing it for family" , "securing the bag".. All that is nonsense, some things are bigger than money.

What they are doing is weakening their country in cricket, poisoning the next gen who look up to these players , and when quality weakens investment is less so next gen suffers ..It all has a knock on effect.
 

Niall

International Coach
Treacherous behaviour. He wasn't playing tests, he was being given time away from the ODI set up before inevitably being asked to play the WC qualifiers.

The man was only being asked to turn up for T20is and he still can't be bothered to do that.

A supremely talented player with a completely nothing career.

Let's see how much world cricket really needs a strong West Indies once more of these players call it quits on the maroon.
Yeah a lot of people will say " he has to get paid " but Pooran was allowed a very flexible schedule to play franchise cricket to earn serious coin so he wasn't exactly struggling to pay the bills.

At least he could have hung around to play the t20 world cup next year ffs.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Hopefully, this can just be put down to Pooran being a bad egg. It's hard to get a gig in the IPL without some International status behind you (Bethell being a rare pick this year but he was already on the International radar), and most players will need to play for their country to be recognised.

I was slightly surprised that Klaasen recently retired as early as he did, especially with a T20 World Cup round the corner, but it's not like he hasn't served his country well up to now.....unlike Pooran.
 

WICFan

State 12th Man
Jason Holder may well be next. Possibly Hety. Rutherford is hopefully too young. This could be the straw that broke the camels back.
Hetmyer's career has been on a downward spiral for a while now.

Holder would've been my choice for test captaincy for a 12-18 month spell.

Hopefully Rutherford and others keep playing in the marron colours.
 

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