Why is Sehwag so good: My analysis

[social]

Trouble is that Tendulkar has achieved similar results to Sehwag over 100 tests not 30 +.

And Tec, to say that Gilchrist is incapable of playing carefully is nonsense. His genius stems from the fact that no-one in 70 tests has worked out how to contain him for extended periods. Maybe that makes him a better player than Sehwag

 

[Slats4ever]

yeah true social but his achievments of late fall into insignificance when compared to shewags...

 

[aussie]

aussie

sehwag is more than capable of playing watchfully and hes more than capable of playing agressively as well, something which gilchrist is incapable of.

Now now tec, how can u say that, u know thats bogus, Gilly isn't all crash, bang, wallop he can play carefully, two major recent examples were his 104 in the Bangalore test and his 49 in the second innings of the chennai test where he came out batted with a great deal of purpose

 

[tooextracool]

Now now tec, how can u say that, u know thats bogus, Gilly isn't all crash, bang, wallop he can play carefully, two major recent examples were his 104 in the Bangalore test and his 49 in the second innings of the chennai test where he came out batted with a great deal of purpose

umm it came off 109 balls with 3 sixes. every gilchrist 100 has come off something near a run a ball.

 

[tooextracool]

And Tec, to say that Gilchrist is incapable of playing carefully is nonsense. His genius stems from the fact that no-one in 70 tests has worked out how to contain him for extended periods. Maybe that makes him a better player than Sehwag

theres a differnece between playing carefully and no one working him out. i havent said that theres anything wrong with gilchrist's game, i was just pointing out something that gilchrist isnt capable off.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

yeah true social but his achievments of late fall into insignificance when compared to shewags...

I don't see how. They have both had a great time of it recently, and played several match winning innings.

 

[Zinzan]

theres a differnece between playing carefully and no one working him out. i havent said that theres anything wrong with gilchrist's game, i was just pointing out something that gilchrist isnt capable off.

Agree. Ironically I see Gilchrist's strength as a weakness. The fact he plays with such "hard-hands" early in his innings gives the bowling team a real chance. Once he's in, he is at least as devastating as Sehwag,if not more so.

But if luck doesn't go his way (which it has for him recently) or the fielding side takes the half-chances early on, i feel he's more of a chance than Sehwag. Particularly early on.

Although he's been sensational all summer in the tests against NZ, he's been fortunate early on in almost all of his innings , never been out LBW, has been dropped and got away with a lot of mis-cues early on.

I'm not suggesting he's always been lucky, I just think things have gone his way lately and he's having a good run. Unlike batsmen like Dravid and Kallis who play high percentages, I think even the biggest Gilchrist fan would acknowledge he does rely on a lot luck. Having said that, thats what makes him such an entertainer.

 

[Eclipse]

Shewag = extream talent

that's it.. his techneque is good but not great look at his first movement it's back and away, that's very unusual for an opener. or any class batsman.

 

[Slats4ever]

I don't see how. They have both had a great time of it recently, and played several match winning innings.

tendulkar's had 2 alright innings recently but they weren't match winning. shewag beats the current tendulkar hands down.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

tendulkar's had 2 alright innings recently but they weren't match winning. shewag beats the current tendulkar hands down.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about Gilchrist, not Tendulkar. Agreed then, Sehwag has been much more impressive of late.

 

[C_C]

The simple reason i rate Sehwag above Gilly is the reason why Chappelli does too- Sehwag does his tour de force at the top of the order on a fresh pitch facing fresh bowlers while Gilly is akin to flogging a dead horse 8 outta 10 times.....

 

[Eclipse]

The simple reason i rate Sehwag above Gilly is the reason why Chappelli does too- Sehwag does his tour de force at the top of the order on a fresh pitch facing fresh bowlers while Gilly is akin to flogging a dead horse 8 outta 10 times.....

since when was this thread about gilly?

most people disagree with you anyway. but that's another matter.

 

[tooextracool]

Agree. Ironically I see Gilchrist's strength as a weakness. The fact he plays with such "hard-hands" early in his innings gives the bowling team a real chance. Once he's in, he is at least as devastating as Sehwag,if not more so.

But if luck doesn't go his way (which it has for him recently) or the fielding side takes the half-chances early on, i feel he's more of a chance than Sehwag. Particularly early on.

i dont agree with you much, but i do on this occasion. personally i've always thought that your best chance against gilchrist is to bowl a spinner early on in the innings, because once he gets set, he really can cause chaos in short periods of time.

 

[tooextracool]

personally i thought amit varma came closest to anyone else in defining sehwag( or at least closest to why i think sehwag is so successful) in his article recently:
"His 201 today came off 262 balls, and yet, it was a watchful innings. Sehwag's watchfulness is predatorial: he waits for the right moment to pounce on his moving dinner. It is an aggressive watchfulness, not a defensive one. It intimidates the opposition, because when he gets the opportunity, he strikes with speed and finality. The rest of the time, muscles taut, mind relaxed but alert, smelling prey, he makes sure that his wicket is safe.

Even Sehwag's defence has aggression. When he defends on the back foot, he punches the ball as much as he pats it down, and it often speeds to the boundary, so well is it timed. There is nothing about his game that is diffident, and he defines a bad ball more broadly than most other batsmen. Bowlers toil in a meritocracy when they bowl to him; when they err, they pay. But he sets the terms, and soon they're broke."

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2005/MAR/215606_INDPAK2004-05_26MAR2005.html

 

[aussie]

aussie

umm it came off 109 balls with 3 sixes. every gilchrist 100 has come off something near a run a ball.

yes, thats natural gilchrist he always scores fast but if u examine that century to the way he played in the 2001 series one would see how carefully he played, especially againts the spinners. For example if u compare his 121 in the 2001 series to the 104 in Bangalore u would see that he careully didn't paly any sweep shots until he was almost to a hundred all 3 of his sixes where straight down the ground, even though he scored quickly that shows that Gilchrist can play carefully

 

[C_C]

since when was this thread about gilly?

most people disagree with you anyway. but that's another matter.

Hey man..i started this thread....so dont lecture ME on this....ease up on the control issue...let a thread develop through natural discourse instead of trying to dilligently control it...

most people disagree with you anyway. but that's another matter.

I know but dont let logic stand in the way....the only thing that would lead to the conclusion that Gilly is equal/superior is the fact that he has played far more than Sehwag has so far...everytihng else pretty much is under lock and key for Sehwag.

 

[Eclipse]

Hey man..i started this thread....so dont lecture ME on this....ease up on the control issue...let a thread develop through natural discourse instead of trying to dilligently control it...




I know but dont let logic stand in the way....the only thing that would lead to the conclusion that Gilly is equal/superior is the fact that he has played far more than Sehwag has so far...everytihng else pretty much is under lock and key for Sehwag.

No it doesn't

I've seen you argue before though and your not the type that can be swayed so i wont bother. I'm right your wrong

 

[C_C]

Like i said-almost everything else is in Sehwag's favour.....

 

[Eclipse]

Like i said-almost everything else is in Sehwag's favour.....

And like I said I don't agree..

 

[C_C]

And like I said I don't agree..

Care to justify that position like i already have in another thread ?