Who will be the first Test debutant of the KP era?

[Lillian Thomson]

Denly.

Good diversionary tactic.

 

[GIMH]

Stuart law

 

[PavlovsDog]

I find it interesting to note that some of the above players are not actually debutents, they have actually played Test Cricket before in the past.

Ian Blackwell, for example.

People have not suggested them, they have merely mentioned them as players on the fringes who may block the path of other uncapped contenders. The only reason Blackwell came up was as an unlikely option as a second spinner in India, which could in turn prevent the likes of Swann or Rashid make a debut.

Since that is highly improbable, this is the reason I plumped for Swann as my choice here.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Thats not serious is it? Blackwell must never play Test cricket. If he does im convinced the world will end.

Already has.

 

[PavlovsDog]

Already has.

Why can't people read in context? It has been stated about 6 times now that everyone knows Blackwell had a test- his name only came up in context of options that may block candidates who are uncapped.

 

[Richard]

Well Space seemed to have forgotten, hence Matt's above comment.

 

[tooextracool]

Expect it to be a batsman rather than a bowler. The batters are more susceptible than the bowlers to losing their places in the side and I would be quite surprised, especially when Jones returns, if England will go in with 2 spinners in their side at any point in time.
For that very reason I'll go with Samit Patel. His part time spin might result in a reason for selection over the likes of Bopara, and that would be the best for all parties.

 

[Richard]

While I'd agree that the next team change likely would be batsman in, how many of the likely candidates have not already played Test cricket?

Joyce, who's now got to be regarded as a remote possibility, would have to be the frontrunner.

 

[Goughy]

Expect it to be a batsman rather than a bowler. The batters are more susceptible than the bowlers to losing their places in the side and I would be quite surprised, especially when Jones returns, if England will go in with 2 spinners in their side at any point in time.

That just isnt true. Far more bowlers are used and they are dropped far more easily.

There was an article on this topic the other day. Ill look for a link.

 

[Richard]

That just isnt true. Far more bowlers are used and they are dropped far more easily.

In no small part because of late they've performed far worse.

Also of course bowlers generally get injured more often than batsmen.

 

[tooextracool]

That just isnt true. Far more bowlers are used and they are dropped far more easily.

There was an article on this topic the other day. Ill look for a link.

Let me rephrase for a second. I cannot see an England side without 3 or 4 (depending on whether they go in with a 5 or 4 man attack) of Anderson, Sidebottom, Harmison, Jones, Broad and Flintoff. I realize that the faster men are more likely to get injured than a batsman or a spinner given how much mileage they have to get through every test match, but I dont see them looking outside of this ***tet nor do I see them going in with a 2 spin bowling attack (and hopefully they dont consider the latter option given the quality of spin reserves available). Personally, I think England should consider playing an all pace attack more often than not outside the subcontinent, but whether they consider doing that is another matter.

 

[Goughy]

There was an article on this topic the other day. Ill look for a link.

Cant find the link.

Anyway, since the 2005 Ashes England have debuted-

9 Bowlers
2 Keepers
3 Batsmen.

Of those 3 batsmen, 2 of them (Shah and Bopara) have a grand total of 5 Tests between them.

Bowlers come and go virtually every Test, yet the England batting lineup has been pretty stable.

 

[BoyBrumby]

My pick is Samit Patel. He's just been picked in the ODI squad which means the selectors rate him, and his FC record is pretty decent. The fact that he bowls left arm tweakers could help in the subcontinent as well. I wouldn't pick him but he's one who stands out to me as being at all likely to "jump the queue". Else, <insert random wicket keeper's name here>.

I'll go with Samit Patel. His part time spin might result in a reason for selection over the likes of Bopara, and that would be the best for all parties.

Yeah, he'd be my pick too. He's obviously in the selectors minds with his promotion to the ODI squad and his SLA, which looks serviceable on the few occasions I've seen it, means we'd have two spinning options without the need to use Collingwood as first/second (dependent on the team's make up) change seamer.

Expect he'll play & probably get a trundle in the 2020 or ODIs to follow the 4th test and if he acquits himself well he could well get a go.