shortpitched713
Cricketer Of The Year
I didn't even realize we had spinners in this list.
Um yeah, I don't know how we compare fast bowler and spinner skill, lol.
Um yeah, I don't know how we compare fast bowler and spinner skill, lol.
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Who is the most skillful bowler?
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Johan
Hall of Fame Member
spinners are born inferior to pacemen.
shortpitched713
Cricketer Of The Year
So consequentially they must be more skillful in order to have anything comparable of a level of performance to a pacer, surely?
Murali at the top of the skillful list then. Although, his physical gifts are not inferior to anyone, in my honest opinion.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
His opening spell in the recent Aussie series matches up with anything I saw from Wasim. For the simple reason that he is bowling the same tight length and his change in swing is happening delivery to delivery with the same wrist and is completely indecipherable for the bat. That's a nightmare. Wasim didn't have quite that level of control and would occasionally spray the odd one out there.
In the WC on flat batting surfaces in India, Bumrah was bowling late swinging balls that curved through the air from middle to off from the first over. Nobody in the entire tournament was bowling like that. Then he would come later and bowl big booming inswinging yorkers. That's just insane skill.
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In the WC on flat batting surfaces in India, Bumrah was bowling late swinging balls that curved through the air from middle to off from the first over. Nobody in the entire tournament was bowling like that. Then he would come later and bowl big booming inswinging yorkers. That's just insane skill.
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah Wicket Vs Mahmudullah | India Vs Bangladesh | World Cup 2023
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah’s wicket of Mahmudullah against Bangladesh.A searing yorker from wide of the crease.#jaspritbumrah #bumrah #mahmudullah #cricketshor...
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sayon basak
International Coach
Great reply.
govinda indian fan
International Debutant
Bumrah is lara of fast bowlingHis opening spell in the recent Aussie series matches up with anything I saw from Wasim. For the simple reason that he is bowling the same tight length and his change in swing is happening delivery to delivery with the same wrist and is completely indecipherable for the bat. That's a nightmare. Wasim didn't have quite that level of control and would occasionally spray the odd one out there.
In the WC on flat batting surfaces in India, Bumrah was bowling late swinging balls that curved through the air from middle to off from the first over. Nobody in the entire tournament was bowling like that. Then he would come later and bowl big booming inswinging yorkers. That's just insane skill.
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah Wicket Vs Mahmudullah | India Vs Bangladesh | World Cup 2023
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah’s wicket of Mahmudullah against Bangladesh.A searing yorker from wide of the crease.#jaspritbumrah #bumrah #mahmudullah #cricketshor...
vidiq
State Regular
How ?Bumrah is lara of fast bowling
He is the Steve Smith of fast bowling.
Ugly style for majority cricket fan's,
And asthetically pleasing for minority .
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah it depends how you define skill.
I’d say someone doing say “more with less” is more skilled than someone who is naturally talented, assuming they achieved identical results.
govinda indian fan
International Debutant
Ok as you say. Smith is atg and likely to end as best since bradman
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes ugly but makes it work terribly effectively.
smash84
The Tiger King
Did you look at the video I shared of Wasim bowling to Slater?His opening spell in the recent Aussie series matches up with anything I saw from Wasim. For the simple reason that he is bowling the same tight length and his change in swing is happening delivery to delivery with the same wrist and is completely indecipherable for the bat. That's a nightmare. Wasim didn't have quite that level of control and would occasionally spray the odd one out there.
In the WC on flat batting surfaces in India, Bumrah was bowling late swinging balls that curved through the air from middle to off from the first over. Nobody in the entire tournament was bowling like that. Then he would come later and bowl big booming inswinging yorkers. That's just insane skill.
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah Wicket Vs Mahmudullah | India Vs Bangladesh | World Cup 2023
Analyzing Jasprit Bumrah’s wicket of Mahmudullah against Bangladesh.A searing yorker from wide of the crease.#jaspritbumrah #bumrah #mahmudullah #cricketshor...
And this video proves my point. Bumrah is far more lethal off the seam isn't he? Wasim is just swinging it more?
shortpitched713
Cricketer Of The Year
Most people don't realize what and why he is doing what he does in his unorthodox fast bowling action, or why it is so incredibly smart.
He has a level of control and adaptability up to and even at the moment of the delivery stride that changes the fast bowling game.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Who was a more intelligent bowler, McGrath or Warne?
Reckon McGrath was better at reading bats but Warne was better at improvising and mind games obviously.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I have seen the Slate video millions of times. It's brilliant of course. I would say Wasims stock wicket of lbw to the right hander was better than Bumrahs stock bowl.
But Bumrah isn't seaming it much in this video, he is swinging it with the new ball. Both ways at pace with regularity.
Wasim has more late swing but Bumrah to me could curve it in the air from delivery from the hand..
smash84
The Tiger King
What? Are we watching the same video? He is seaming it both ways. Away and into both right and left handers?
That wicket of Steve Smith at 1:25 is classic just slightly seam away. Something McGrath would be proud of.
Edit khawaja at 1:25 and Smith at 0:50.
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Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I don’t necessarily think either was more intelligent. More that they attacked differently, but equally successfully. Warne may have been better at improvising because he naturally had more variation. McGrath’s more likely to take a wicket with his stock ball though.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Um he is clearly swinging it from the hand. And the deviation is mostly swing.
smash84
The Tiger King
What, how is deviation off the wicket swing?
Unless I have the definitions all wrong, seam is supposed to be deviation off the pitch and swing is movement in the air?
And what you are thinking is swing straight out the hand is really Bumrah bowling with his arm coming in at that angle and sending it into the batsmen and then moving it off the seam.