Which bowler is most difficult to face in their ideal conditions?

[subshakerz]

Ranking the below spinners in the order that are most difficult to face in their prime home conditions:

Derek Underwood in the late 60/70s in England

Abdul Qadir in Pakistan in the 80s

Warne in Australia in the mid-90s

Kumble in India in the 90s

Murali in Sri Lanka in the 2000s

Ashwin in India in the 2010s

 

[_00_deathscar]

The answer to this thread, as to every CW thread, is clearly Jadeja.

 

[harsh.ag]

Ranking the below spinners in the order that are most difficult to face in their prime home conditions:

Derek Underwood in the late 60/70s in England

Abdul Qadir in Pakistan in the 80s

Warne in England in the mid-90s

Kumble in India in the 90s

Murali in Sri Lanka in the 2000s

Ashwin in India in the 2010s

ftfy

 

[The Sean]

Warne is a bit of an outlier in that list, insofar that his home surfaces and conditions - on the whole - weren't his best.

 

[Ymaxxx]

Joel Garner on green tops

 

[Jack1]

Just thought I'd mention if you remove Laker's 19 wickets game he still took 4.14 wickets per game at home averaging 20.28 in 28 matches. Including the 19 wicket game it's 4.66 wpm and 135 wickets @ 18.08 average in 29 matches. Underwood as an example took 145 in 42 matches at 24.24 - that's 3.45 per game. This was just a comparison between Laker and Underwood considering you included Underwood.

Considering Murali has taken 493 wickets in 73 at home - 6.75 wickets per game @ 19.56 I would certainly have to say Murali..I don't think it's close at all to be honest.

 

[Ymaxxx]

trevor chappell in his ideal condition requirement is my i say impossible

 

[Arachnodouche]

The answer to this thread, as to every CW thread, is clearly Jadeja.

This relentless Jadeja memeing has clearly put a hex on his skills. Wake me up when he makes a game-changing contribution again.

 

[Slifer]

Murali for me

 

[Calm_profit]

Terry Alderman if you consider England as his ideal conditions.

 

[mr_mister]

Barnes on a sticky was probably pretty tough

 

[Migara]

Ranking the below spinners in the order that are most difficult to face in their prime home conditions:

Derek Underwood in the late 60/70s in England

Abdul Qadir in Pakistan in the 80s

Warne in Australia in the mid-90s

Kumble in India in the 90s

Murali in Sri Lanka in the 2000s

Ashwin in India in the 2010s

Kumble / Chandra / Underwood on a drying pitch would be. All others are playable. Qadir was hammered by Indians. Warne were taken apart by Indians home and away. Murali had some poor matches against Pakistan. Ashwin was damn lucky. But Underwood, Kumble and Chandra due to thepace they bowl gives no reaction time on a pitch with variable bounce.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Considering Murali has taken 493 wickets in 73 at home - 6.75 wickets per game @ 19.56 I would certainly have to say Murali..I don't think it's close at all to be honest.

This

 

[Arachnodouche]

Yeah, Murali@home is the greatest bowler who ever lived. Obscene stats.

 

[Ymaxxx]

rashid khan in uae/bangladesh

 

[Migara]

Further players like Murali in their ideal conditions still wear you down and get you with a good ball. The ideal conditions for Murali was a bouncy track with a bit of spin in it. He never gave the helplessness to a batsman that Underwood / Chandra / Kumble had dished out. One pitches on middle and take off. Next pitches little shorter and scoots. Then after a series of balls that just turn few inches, one bites, spins, bounces and takes the shoulder of the bat.

variable lateral spin is always easier to play than variable bounce.

 

[Ymaxxx]

Further players like Murali in their ideal conditions still wear you down and get you with a good ball. The ideal conditions for Murali was a bouncy track with a bit of spin in it. He never gave the helplessness to a batsman that Underwood / Chandra / Kumble had dished out. One pitches on middle and take off. Next pitches little shorter and scoots. Then after a series of balls that just turn few inches, one bites, spins, bounces and takes the shoulder of the bat.

variable lateral spin is always easier to play than variable bounce.

does murali sleep in boxers or pyjamas

 

[trundler]

Hard to argue against Murali but medium slow + variable bounce is generally catastrophic for batsmen too.

 

[weeman27bob]

James Anderson with copious cloud cover, so pretty much all of the English summer.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Jamieson on anything with a bit of grass and bounce