capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
There are two separate Aussie attacks. First with Tiger O'Reilly, then the one with Lindwall, Miller, Johnston, and co. And then there were the WI spinner duo of Ramadhin and Valentine on turners. Also Fazal Mahmood. On average, he faced tougher bowling in tougher conditions.And what outside of that Australian attack? There's nothing apart from that attack.
Not to mention the first half of Hutton's career, actually the majority of his career was played on the deadest of pitches in the history of the game.
I love Hutton, more than most here, but he didn't consistently dominate great attacks more than Viv, no one did.
Qadir gets flack for his away record, as does (relatively) Imran, but despite how it was achieved, there's been very few greater challenge than facing those two in Pakistan during the late 70's into 80's.
Similarly Lillee and Thompson during the late 70's in Australia and Lillee on those drop in green pitches favored for WSC. Lillee and Thompson during that brief period was the most terrifying partnership in cricket up to that point in the game.
Hadlee at home too was no less efficient if obviously less physically threatening. He made NZ a challenge at home if not a full contender.
Peak Botham too was a menace and of course he was paired with Bob Willis.
Viv has a better record against great and ATG bowlers than almost anyone from among the BAB contenders. From memory (from Johan's posts) Sobers comes close, with Tendulkar and Lara being a bit behind. I honestly don't recall what Smith's are.
To say it was just solo acts and not combos, takes both ridiculously out of context.
So in conclusion:
– Hutton played 31% of his tests against an elite ATG attack (post war Australia), Viv never played an attack of that tier.
- the pre war attack in 1938 Ashes also had Tiger, one of the three ATG spinners, Viv never played any ATG spinners
– Hutton played 50% of his Tests in the hardest era by far since the first world war, the "easy" era of his career was deleted by the second world war, he had 7 years in a somewhat easy era where he still made tough runs and then 6 years in the hardest era of the sport
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