marc71178 said:I also pointed out the West Indies being robbed of 2 points they were certainties to get.
Then it's all 5 on the same number of points, and NRR would've left SL in a great deal of trouble.
As i've said earlier he did arrive at conclusion based on "Selected Facts", one team for example did well in recent past in Australia, but that was overlooked.If you actually read what Bazza posted, he at no point said anything was impossible, merely that all 3 of the major Asian Nations have been hugely outclassed in South African and Australian conditions (which is true when they've toured those nations i recent times) and as such could be expected to struggle in the World Cup.Everything there is based on facts leading up to the competition, and his conclusion based on those facts was legitimate.
Wha has those surprises to do with the topic?? India reaching the final wasn't a surprise, infact many former ex cricketers including Mark Waugh had tipped India to reach the final before the start of the tour!!I was pointing out that have been a lot of surprises in the World Cup compared to what was expected prior to the Tournament.
Now to "ifs and butt" theory. SA should have beaten Australia (the eventual winner) in '99 not once but twice!! SA should have reached the final in the '92 WC.One needs some luck in a tournament like world cup, SL were a bit lucky but did deserve to reach the K.O stage.SA should've beaten them, and if WI hadn't been rained off against Ban then SL would've been on the next plane home!
Actually the only time Asians failed to reach the semis in a WC(ever since '83) was in WC '87 which was staged in Sub-continent!Ringua said:]
The theorists was actually suggesting that none of the 3 asians would even reach the semis (thats what a poor World cup is), something which has not happened in atleast 3 previous world cup !!!
With the benefit of that tie they did, and without the Windies getting a massive boost to theirs by playing Bangladesh.Legglancer said:How so ???? Sri Lanka ended With the 2 nd Highest NRR ????
I thought you were of the view that SL didn't deserve to be in semis!Isn't exactly what I've just been saying?You prove my post wrong by coming to the same conclusion?
Ironic that, you say he looked at selected facts then use that fact:Ringua said:As i've said earlier he did arrive at conclusion based on "Selected Facts", one team for example did well in recent past in Australia, but that was overlooked.
Again your argument is presumptous and not based on fact's .... Just for the sake of humor I will indulge !marc71178 said:With the benefit of that tie they did, and without the Windies getting a massive boost to theirs by playing Bangladesh.
That would be the lucky part of my original post then.
This is what I am quoted as saying before the start of the tournament. I stand by this.Originally posted by Bazza
My point was that all three of the major players from the subcontinent have been hugely outclassed in South African/Australian type conditions, and as a result can be expected to struggle in the world cup.Don't worry this is the last time I will try and get this across. We will wait and see what happens, but I am safe in the knowledge that if India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka all have a poor world cup campaign, I saw it coming a light year away.I won't go back any further - you get the idea. Subcontinental teams tend to suck in SA/Aus type conditions (ie pace, bounce, large outfields, etc).Here is the evidence right there. It's not an opinion, it is fact, and I would be surprised if any subcontinental side makes it to the final.
Hey Marc, Bazza, why don't you look at these stats?marc71178 said:Ironic that, you say he looked at selected facts then use that fact:
India last Test Series in SA: 0-1; in Aus: 0-3
Pakistan last Test Series in SA: 0-2; in Aus: 0-3
Sri Lanka last Test Series in SA: 0-2; in Aus: 0-3
India last ODI Series in SA: 1-3; in Aus: 0-4
Pakistan last ODI Series in SA: 1-4; in Aus: 2-1
Sri Lanka last ODI Series in SA: 1-4; in Aus: 1-3
So out of 12 possibles, the 3 lost 11, yet you quote the 1 that Pakistan won as proof that Bazza used selected facts?
What a positively biased statement!! For 10 matches they bowl well above ordinary(in fact brilliant at times) and that is an exception for you while the really ordinary bowling in the 11th match(the final) is the norm. What a logic, man! I take my hat off to you!:rolleyes:Bazza said:Unfortunately for them the fact remains they were shown up to be the ordinary bowlers they were in the final, bowling a succession of poor deliveries and lots of short stuff which was repeatedly punished by Ponting et al.