The demise of the spinner...

[marc71178]

Even Richard supports us! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








btw, Richard, It's Mohammed

I expect it's only because Banks is an offie.

 

[SpeedKing]

I remember Geoffrey Boycott once saying that Corey Collymore and Adam Sandford couldn't bowl his Mum out even if she batted with a walking stick.....

I am sure Rob Key won't be making any such comments

 

[aussie]

They may not be the greatest spinners in the world, but they are better then some of the losers quicks that have been picked infront of them. Surley Banks is a better bowler then Collymore, King, Powell, Washington etc.

not collymore

 

[aussie]

How dare you say that about Dave Mohammed. He's a very good bowler with a good FC record, who on test debut in South Africa did no worse than the seamers Drakes, Edwards and Sanford but ended up not playing again for the West Indies for 7 months. When he finally got another chance it was in a team which had lost the previous 2 tests and whse bowlers(with the exception of Bravo), again, weren't pulling their fingers out. And to add insult to Dave the opening batsmen, Joseph and Gayle, were used before him. How're you as a specialist bowler supposed to bowl if you know your captain doesn't trust you so much he bowls his opening batsmen before you? Then he gets dropped AGAIN. At least give him a chance to prove himself before slagging him off. How long did it take Flintoff and Harmison to come good? :****ed:

he wont get a chance to prove himself since the West indies dont give their spinner much of a chance remember Nagamootoo & Dhanraj?.... only ramnarine who played his last test 3 years ago was give some sort of a run.

Dont brag too much about the WI first class competiton since it not anything special

 

[chaminda_00]

Collymore is nothing special, he bowls line and length, that all. He gets no movement and bowls doesn't bowl many wicket taking balls. Banks and Mohammed are better bowlers then him.

 

[archie mac]

SA early on - not since the 1910s.
Most of the Test-class wristspinners have been Australian, yes, but still... 4 in 100 years. Not exactly a massive number.

Hordern, Mailey, Grimmett, O'Reilley, Fleetwood-Smith (not a great Test record) McCool, Benaud, Higgs, Holland, Warne and MaGill.

Their were a few more, but found it hard to break into the Australian side, so played in county Cricket.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

SA early on - not since the 1910s.
Most of the Test-class wristspinners have been Australian, yes, but still... 4 in 100 years. Not exactly a massive number.

4?

 

[SpeedKing]

Collymore is nothing special, he bowls line and length, that all. He gets no movement and bowls doesn't bowl many wicket taking balls. Banks and Mohammed are better bowlers then him.

That simple line and length is too great an ask for most bowlers in this world, Best can spray it around and Collins isn't the most consistent of bowlers either

 

[Nate]

SA early on - not since the 1910s.
Most of the Test-class wristspinners have been Australian, yes, but still... 4 in 100 years. Not exactly a massive number.

Bwaaaaaah? I`m pretty sure there has been a few more than four.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

MacGill when England couldn't play wristspin to save their lives...
4... 27... 17.70... 2.57... 41.1
MacGill since England's play against spin has improved...
2... 12... 40.50... 2.87... 84.5
Doesn't take a genius to work-out that MacGill against England cannot be taken as a whole.

Ahem,

Just when did England improve their play against spin?

Surely it's not too much trouble to include a date, and dispel howls of selective stat-grabbing.

 

[marc71178]

Ahem,

Just when did England improve their play against spin?

IIRC it was when they toured the sub-continent nations early in the 2000s

 

[aussie]

Collymore is nothing special, he bowls line and length, that all. He gets no movement and bowls doesn't bowl many wicket taking balls. Banks and Mohammed are better bowlers then him.

so your saying that Collymore doesn't bowl bowl wikcet-taking deliveries but Mohammed & Banks do

 

[pskov]

Whatever happened to Ramnarine? He was pretty decent IIRC, then just seemed to disappear off the map.

 

[tooextracool]

So far Best and Edwards have proven pretty crap; Collins isn't much better either.

collins isnt much better?
have you even watched collins bowl?

 

[aussie]

Whatever happened to Ramnarine? He was pretty decent IIRC, then just seemed to disappear off the map.

i heard he retired from FC cricket and became the president of the WI players association, i wish liam were here to confirm that

 

[superkingdave]

i can confirm it, its his 30th birthday today.

Apparently he fell out with Carl Hooper, who was captain at the time

 

[Nate]

Haha, if Collymore can`t bowl wicket-taking deliveries, how come he got 7?

 

[chaminda_00]

Haha, if Collymore can`t bowl wicket-taking deliveries, how come he got 7?

Every dog has his day, maybe his better then i thought, thats his 3rd 5-fer in 16 Tests.

But i still think that the Windies should pick their best four bowlers not just four fast bowlers.

 

[Nate]

But i still think that the Windies should pick their best four bowlers not just four fast bowlers.

So do I, but I believe Collymore is one of the 'best four bowlers'.

 

[aussie]

Every dog has his day, maybe his better then i thought, thats his 3rd 5-fer in 16 Tests.

But i still think that the Windies should pick their best four bowlers not just four fast bowlers.

well 4 fast bowlers are their best bowlers