i think thats a good point. surely he is good enough to handle the capabilities of opening an inningsAdamc said:Although Lara probably won't be remembered as an ODI opener, his brief opening career was a very good one:
51 innings, 5x not out, 2166 runs @ 47.08, 5x100, 15x50, HS 153.
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How can you put those 2 at 2 and 3 when you read the numbers?age_master said:in order of ranking (after re reading)
Tendulkar
Gilchrist
Jayasuria
It's not all about stats, Marco.marc71178 said:How can you put those 2 at 2 and 3 when you read the numbers?
Jayasuria was definately a breath of fresh air when in the early 90s, but quite frankly I think it was Mark Greatbatch in the 92 world cup who revolutionised the way openers should play in the first 15 overs.LongHopCassidy said:It's not all about stats, Marco.
Jayasuriya is a pioneer in the game and changed the way openers play in ODIs (and even in Tests to a smaller extent) during the 1996 World Cup. He enjoys hitting over the infield (his major innovation) while the field is in, and this is often his undoing.
Gilchrist just has the very useful habit of murdering attacks and would average in the low fifties if he was a better starter. His average is deflated by his tendency to hit out or get out.
The game is a lot more enjoyable when you can look past averages.
marc71178 said:How can you put those 2 at 2 and 3 when you read the numbers?
Whipdy do ! It still doesn't mean he was the one who revolutionised the approach to one day opening.LongHopCassidy said:Yes, but Jayasuriya's team won the World Cup. That's what made other teams notice and adopt their tactics.
Oh, for sure. Greatbatch was the trail-blazer. What he did was so revolutionary. Back in those days, 0/50 after 15 overs was a cracker of a start.zinzan12 said:Jayasuria was definately a breath of fresh air when in the early 90s, but quite frankly I think it was Mark Greatbatch in the 92 world cup who revolutionised the way openers should play in the first 15 overs.
Couldn't - I was 2.zinzan12 said:I take it you didn't see much of the 92 world cup
That was a revolutionary World Cup actually. Depak Patel was often drafted in to open the bowling. Did quite a good job too. Again, it only worked because teams were formerly so conservative in the first 15 overs. But I digress....zinzan12 said:Thats not to say I think Greatbatch is one of the top 10, because overall his record was pretty average, but I still maintain he was the main catalyst for the change in the attacking approach
Yeah he virtually put the last World Cup final to bed after the first 10 overs - really has a knack for deflating the opposition.Robertinho said:Tendulkar and Gilchrist would be up there.
Tendulkar's record shows his destructiveness, but Gilchrist's ability to blow a team's chance out of the water is awesome. I love nothing more than hearing/seeing that Gilchrist has "fired" again, whether he makes 50/100 or not, it's usually blisteringly fast and sets up the rest of the innings.
Sachin averages 89 runs per 100 balls for his 10829 runs as an openerSJS said:We all know that in ODI's consistency AS WELL as speed of run getting matter. So here are the run rates. Unfortunately these are career run rates and not run rates as openers.
Runs/100 balls in career(till date for those playing)
Sehwag--------- 96.3
Gilchrist-------- 94.9
Jayasuriya----- 88.6
Tendulkar----- 86.2
Gibbs----------- 81.4
Anwar----------- 80.6
Waugh M------ 76.8
Hayden--------- 76.1
Smith------------ 75.2
Ganguly-------- 74.2
Astle------------ 72.5
Kirsten---------- 72.0
Siddhu---------- 69.7
Atapattu-------- 67.1
Greenidge------ 64.9
Haynes--------- 63.1
Gooch----------- 61.9
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