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Test Cricket - Who was better?

Who was better?

  • Total voters
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The_CricketUmpire

The_CricketUmpire

U19 Vice-Captain
Most of the stats point to Matthew Hayden but still an interesting topic to discuss I think.


Matthew Hayden - Test Career

Home
Matches: 56
Innings: 98
Runs: 5210
Average: 57.89
Highest Score: 380* vs Zimbabwe, 2003
50s: 16
100s: 21
50+ Scores: 37
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 2.64 innings
150+ Scores: 3
Ducks: 5
Strike Rate: 62.88

Away
Matches: 47
Innings: 86
Runs: 3415
Average: 42.69
Highest Score: 203 vs India, 2001
50s: 13
100s: 9
50+ Scores: 22
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 3.90 innings
150+ Scores: 2
Ducks: 9
Strike Rate: 56.32

Total
Matches: 103
Innings: 184
Runs: 8625
Average: 50.74
Highest Score: 380* vs Zimbabwe, 2003
50s: 29
100s: 30
50+ Scores: 59
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 3.11 innings
150+ Scores: 5
Ducks: 14
Strike Rate: 60.11
1000+ Runs in Calander Year: 5 times
Most Runs in Calander Year: 1391 (2001)
Average Runs Scored Per Year: 663.46


Mark Taylor - Test Career

Home
Matches: 55
Innings: 100
Runs: 3993
Average: 43.40
Highest Score: 170 vs South Africa, 1993
50s: 22
100s: 11
50+ Scores: 33
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 3.03 innings
150+ Scores: 3
Ducks: 1
Strike Rate: 40.41

Away
Matches: 49
Innings: 86
Runs: 3532
Average: 43.60
Highest Score: 334* vs Pakistan, 1998
50s: 18
100s: 8
50+ Scores: 26
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 3.30 innings
150+ Scores: 2
Ducks: 4
Strike Rate: 42.77

Total
Matches: 104
Innings: 186
Runs: 7525
Average: 43.49
Highest Score: 334* vs Pakistan, 1998
50s: 40
100s: 19
50+ Scores: 59
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ per 3.15 innings
150+ Scores: 5
Ducks: 5
Strike Rate: 41.48
1000+ Runs in Calander Year: 3 times
Most Runs in Calander Year: 1219 (1989)
Average Runs Scored Per Year: 684.09
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
It will help to include players in the comparison in the title thread. Otherwise all threads on the forum page start looking same.
 
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Ashes81

State Vice-Captain
Taylor for me. Yes Hayden has better stats but Taylor was a top notch captain and played the game in the right way.

Finally, Hayden was a **** and Taylor has always seemed like a top bloke
 
Coronis

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
Ashes81 said:
Taylor for me. Yes Hayden has better stats but Taylor was a top notch captain and played the game in the right way.

Finally, Hayden was a **** and Taylor has always seemed like a top bloke
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Oh cool we got a pity vote.
 
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ashley bach

International Captain
Given his fantastic start to test cricket, I've always thought Mark Taylor was quite disappointing after that, so Hayden relatively easily.
Not only that but Hayden was a much better player to watch, as their strike rates suggest, Taylor 41, Hayden 60 which is a huge difference.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
Spark said:
I don't disagree that Hayden's personality... wasn't the best... but the amount of disrespect he gets as an opening batsman who scored, what, 30 Test centuries is mad.
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Batsmen who scored tons more often than Hayden (min 20 matches): Bradman, Headley, Walcott, Labuschagne, Sutcliffe, Weekes, Smith, Pollock, Sangakkara
 
The_CricketUmpire

The_CricketUmpire

U19 Vice-Captain
BazBall21 said:
Slater was better than Taylor
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Michael Slater - Test Career

Home
Matches: 33
Innings: 57
Runs: 2842
Average: 52.62
Highest Score: 219 vs Sri Lanka, 1995
50s: 12
100s: 9
50+ Scores: 21
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ every 2.71 innings
150+ Scores: 4
Ducks: 4
Strike Rate: 55.61

Away
Matches: 41
Innings: 74
Runs: 2470
Average: 35.28
Highest Score: 152 vs England, 1993
50s: 9
100s: 5
50+ Scores: 14
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ every 5.28 innings
150+ Scores: 1
Ducks: 5
Strike Rate: 50.85

Total
Matches: 74
Innings: 131
Runs: 5312
Average: 42.83
Highest Score: 219 vs Sri Lanka, 1995
50s: 21
100s: 14
50+ Scores: 35
50+ Scores Ratio: 50+ every 3.74 innings
150+ Scores: 5
Ducks: 9
Strike Rate: 53.29
1000+ Runs in Calander Year: 1
Most Runs in Calander Year: 1051 (1999)
Average Runs Scored Per Year: 664.00
 
The_CricketUmpire

The_CricketUmpire

U19 Vice-Captain
ashley bach said:
Given his fantastic start to test cricket, I've always thought Mark Taylor was quite disappointing after that, so Hayden relatively easily.
Not only that but Hayden was a much better player to watch, as their strike rates suggest, Taylor 41, Hayden 60 which is a huge difference.
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If you're referring to Taylor's debut year in Test cricket - 1989, where he scored 1219 runs......yes it was a good start.

For you to say he was disappointing after his great start is harsh. He was far from disappointing, in fact he was the 3rd highest run scorer in the 1990s, see link below:



Good effort for an opening batsman who faced some of the all time great fast bowlers - Akram, Younis, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, as well as the very good Chaminda Vaas, plus good fast bowlers in Andy Caddick, Darren Gough and Chris Cairns - and that was the fast bowlers only - he also had to face quality spinners in Murali, Anil Kumble, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmed and Daniel Vettori.
 
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ashley bach

International Captain
The_CricketUmpire said:
If you're referring to Taylor's debut year in Test cricket - 1989, where he scored 1219 runs......yes it was a good start.

For you to say he was disappointing after his great start is harsh. He was far from disappointing, in fact he was the 3rd highest run scorer in the 1990s, see link below:



Good effort for an opening batsman who faced some of the all time great fast bowlers - Akram, Younis, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, as well as the very good Chaminda Vaas, plus good fast bowlers in Andy Caddick, Darren Gough and Chris Cairns - and that was the fast bowlers only - he also had to face quality spinners in Murali, Anil Kumble, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmed and Daniel Vettori.
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Perhaps I am being a wee bit harsh on tubby Taylor who certainly did have his moments in the sun.
My reference of disappointment to him though was a general one and referred to over many years.
The table for the most runs that decade is somewhat misleading because he played more tests than anyone else, and while he certainly faced some
great bowlers during that time, he only averaged 40 that decade despite scoring 334* which is fine, but certainly nothing outstanding.
 
BazBall21

BazBall21

International Regular
They average similar but Slater has a clear edge on consistency. Taylor a little feast or famine in terms of run distribution per year.

And I’d go Hayden>Slater>Langer>Taylor>Warner.
 
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