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South Africa team selection

Dendarii

International Debutant
Its just that for her to not be accepted because she took 18 s longer is ridiculous... if that is the distinction between two equally skilled athletes and unsure who to select, sure use it as a criteria, but not as a disqualification criteria for one of your best and most skilled players.
I agree with that, but it does depend on how generous the fitness criteria are. If she could reasonably be expected to run it in say 7.5 minutes then being more than two minutes over that after having come back from a broken ankle could mean that she hasn't fully recovered. But if she's run her personal best then she's just as fit as she's ever been.
 

StephenZA

Hall of Fame Member
I agree with that, but it does depend on how generous the fitness criteria are. If she could reasonably be expected to run it in say 7.5 minutes then being more than two minutes over that after having come back from a broken ankle could mean that she hasn't fully recovered. But if she's run her personal best then she's just as fit as she's ever been.
You have to ask where the minimum criteria are coming from, which I don't think are extreme... but I think they are being implemented stringently, without having a true reason for saying 9:30 over 10:00 minutes. I think the purpose is to ensure that even in a T20 game you able to consistently run throughout the entire innings chasing down balls, but I would like to see the research showing than 9:30 provides that criteria rather than it being an arbitrary choice. Then the additional question is the importance of those requirements versus the other skills the player provides. I get the feeling that these have been adopted as a minimum with no other considerations for broader issues on the skills of the player. It becomes a tick box with no understanding or thought once again...
 

Stefan9

International Debutant
This struck me as odd.



If she has a personal best of 9 minutes 48 seconds then she's never met that criterion, so why have they allowed her to play previously but are now enforcing it?

And I'm not a runner, so I have no idea, but how reasonable is it to expect someone to run 2km in 9.5 minutes? That's 12.6km/h and Google says that the average woman runs at 9.6km/h, but that's the average woman and not a professional sportswoman.
It used to be 10 minutes was changed to 9:30.
 

Gremlin

U19 Vice-Captain
It's nuts.

She is a box office cricketer, she inspires with her play and leadership, SA and the tournament will be a lot poorer without her.

She got a PB! Utter madness.
 

Dendarii

International Debutant
I get the feeling that these have been adopted as a minimum with no other considerations for broader issues on the skills of the player. It becomes a tick box with no understanding or thought once again...
It does seem that way. It's not unreasonable to have standards for fitness, but it needs to be a sliding scale not simply a pass/fail. If she's meeting all the other criteria and slightly off the pace on just one then that really shouldn't be a problem.
 

Dendarii

International Debutant
It used to be 10 minutes was changed to 9:30.
That's utterly ridiculous (although CSA specialise in the utterly ridiculous). Never having been able able to run that fast hasn't prevented her from having a very successful 14-year international career. It's almost like they've deliberately taken steps not to pick her.
 
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Molehill

International Captain
As I mentioned elsewhere, it makes you wonder how many other greats in World Cricket would've failed the 2km run. Warne would've told them where they could stick it (and did on occasion), whilst Inzy and Gatting might've got there in time had there been the promise of a decent feed at the end of it.
 

Socerer 01

International Captain
As I mentioned elsewhere, it makes you wonder how many other greats in World Cricket would've failed the 2km run. Warne would've told them where they could stick it (and did on occasion), whilst Inzy and Gatting might've got there in time had there been the promise of a decent feed at the end of it.
different standards in cricket today and it is unfair to compare cricketers of the past to today when most of them would have toed the line to make a career
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
As I mentioned elsewhere, it makes you wonder how many other greats in World Cricket would've failed the 2km run. Warne would've told them where they could stick it (and did on occasion), whilst Inzy and Gatting might've got there in time had there been the promise of a decent feed at the end of it.
You dont have to imagine. We can always have Rohit Sharma and Ashwin run the race. :p
 

Molehill

International Captain
different standards in cricket today and it is unfair to compare cricketers of the past to today when most of them would have toed the line to make a career
Possibly, but a player's natural physique shouldn't necessarily define the quality of cricket they play. Van Niekerk also offered plenty as a skipper, one of the best in World Cricket, I remember being very impressed by her in the inaugural Hundred. I'm pretty certain her team wouldn't have won it without her leading, astonishing that S Africa think they have a better cricketer than her out there based on the ability to run 2km.
 

kevinw

State Vice-Captain
Sounds like DVN may be refused a NOC to play in the WIPL. As if this situation can possibly get any worse.
 

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