Shoaib Malik, Overrated?

[Sanz]

Malik is overrated as a captain and underrated as a batsman. He is not a leader, he never will be.

 

[Prince EWS]

Malik has a poor FC record because he started playing as a bowler otherwise he would've been averaging between 35 to 40.

Agreed, but is averaging 35 to 40 in first class cricket really good enough for a test batsman? Let alone one whose place is guaranteed...

 

[shortpitched713]

Agreed, but is averaging 35 to 40 in first class cricket really good enough for a test batsman? Let alone one whose place is guaranteed...

Remember, he bowls off spin... oh wait.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Agreed, but is averaging 35 to 40 in first class cricket really good enough for a test batsman? Let alone one whose place is guaranteed...

There have been many players who didn't have good FC records until they cemented their place in the test teams.Trescothick,Vaughan,Sarwan are the ones that come to my mind atm but there are number of such players.

 

[iamdavid]

There have been many players who didn't have good FC records until they cemented their place in the test teams.Trescothick,Vaughan,Sarwan are the ones that come to my mind atm but there are number of such players.

Sangakkara....

 

[FRAZ]

Malik has a poor FC record because he started his caeer as a bowler as a bowler otherwise he would've been averaging between 35 to 40.

Spot on !

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Shoaib Malik is a chucker and has too many wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

 

[FRAZ]

Shoaib Malik is a chucker and has too many wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

He is not a mudda chucker at all and has been cleared by ICC for your kind information !

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

It was a joke Frazst3r, calm yourself down.

 

[FRAZ]

It was a joke Frazst3r, calm yourself down.

I am always calm ...
Goozfaba !!!

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Agreed, but is averaging 35 to 40 in first class cricket really good enough for a test batsman? Let alone one whose place is guaranteed...

David Gower never averaged above 40 in First Class Cricket if you take away his Test Record yet he played well over a hundred Tests and no one has ever been churlish enough to say he wasn't good enough.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I am always calm ...
Goozfaba !!!

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Not sure if it has been mentioned - but he reminds me a lot of Nathan Adcock in the way he has been appointed captain without ever securing his spot in the side.

Was a poor choice.

 

[Perm]

IIRC the majority of people were in favour of Malik's appointment as captain, since Younis Khan did not want the job and Mohammad Yousuf was away on ICL duty at the time. Now it seems everybody has changed their minds and done a pretty big U-turn. However, since no other players are willing to commit themselves to the captaincy, it seem as though he will retain it.

 

[Perm]

I'm a fan of Shoaib Malik, esp the way he plays spinners, but I feel his average of 28 in FC and he's the captain is just a joke. Good ODI player, but I don't think he'll ever have success in tests, esp against fast bowlers. I really hope he gets stripped of his captaincy, and someone like Salman Butt or Misbah is made the captain.

Misbah-ul-Haq who has been incredibly poor in international cricket since before the Twenty20 World Cup? Salman Butt who is one of the most talented openers in Pakistan, but has yet to really secure his spot with consistent performances?

 

[Perm]

I definitely think he's a better player than his first class average of 28 indicates, but like many in this thread, I'm not entirely convinced that he's test class. I'd be interested to see his first class record in recent seasons TBH - I'd say he's improved a lot as a batsman since when he played the majority of those FC games.

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/8/8219/f_Batting_by_Season.html

 

[Richard]

David Gower never averaged above 40 in First Class Cricket if you take away his Test Record yet he played well over a hundred Tests and no one has ever been churlish enough to say he wasn't good enough.

David Gower was a rare exception, though, people like him who have the ability to raise themselves for Tests and not domestic-First-Class cricket are exceptionally unusual. In Australia, Gower might never be picked for a single Test.

 

[cnerd123]

I'm a fan of Shoaib Malik, esp the way he plays spinners, but I feel his average of 28 in FC and he's the captain is just a joke. Good ODI player, but I don't think he'll ever have success in tests, esp against fast bowlers. I really hope he gets stripped of his captaincy, and someone like Salman Butt or Misbah is made the captain.

harsh

 

[mackembhoy]

harsh

This has to be the oldest bump of a thread in internet forum history

 

[trundler]

Fair to say no one really rated him before the tournament