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Shaun Tait- Could he be the man for Australia in this WC?

pup11

International Coach
I think if Tait picks 20 wickets is this WC aussies would win the WC, but the million dollar question can he do it?

He has got the annumation but can he fire, i think its important that Ricky uses him smartly in short bursts to extract max out of him.

His real test would be against the South African who i think would try to really go after him.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
He could be the difference between Australia's bowling being in the pack or a step ahead, TBH. I've heard a few ex-Australian and current FC cricketers have said he's the fastest they've ever seen.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Bowling fast isn't everything, you need some sort of control. Also most batsmen at this level can handle his pace fairly easierly. Also i think a lot of people forgot his form in domestic cricket wasn't that great, cus he tired to bowl too fast.
 

pup11

International Coach
Do you guys see Johnson or Clark coming into the team at any time during the tournament (barring any injury problems)?
And if yes, then who would they replace?
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Do you guys see Johnson or Clark coming into the team at any time during the tournament (barring any injury problems)?
And if yes, then who would they replace?
I think when Symonds comes back if Watson and Hogg aren't setting the world on fire they might bring in the 4th seamer. But if they hit some form Bracken, MacGarth and Tait are likely to be the seamer, unless Tait bowls like crap. They seem to like that balance in their attack, Johnson can bowl quite quick though.
 

pup11

International Coach
Look Tait is mesmerized by the Speedometer and thats something he needs to get rid of his game quickly, he is very young and inexperienced so i think experienced blokes like Punter,Gilly,etc should help and guide him on the field.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
I agree with Jack, I think he's crucial. If Tait bowls consistently well, Australia should really win the WC. If he doesn't they still might, but it's much easier to see them losing a knockout game at some stage. If he's taking a couple of early wickets though, it makes a massive difference given the calibre of support there is.

Without Lee, Australia's attack looks a fair bit more fallible than normal. It's certainly not clearly better than South Africa's, as things stand. McGrath's not quite as unstoppable as he used to be, and regardless, it's just he and Bracken. Hogg's a good bowler but not someone you'd rely on to win games on his own, and Watson's just decent support at best. The difference between having two top class ODI bowlers and three is a huge one IMO, and it takes a lot of pressure off the support guys when Lee is in the team too. Hogg's a much better bowler with those guys behind him than when he's required to bowl a great spell and get the side out of trouble.

Tait's the variable in all that.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Look Tait is mesmerized by the Speedometer and thats something he needs to get rid of his game quickly, he is very young and inexperienced so i think experienced blokes like Punter,Gilly,etc should help and guide him on the field.
That guideness should have been happening in the last 12 months, not during the World Cup itself. If they expected him to be a match winner, they should have picked him a long time ago really. He'll basically fill the inforcer role of Lee, but really you can't expect him to win too many games, let alone be the difference in the bowling line up.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
He's played all of 4 or 5 games before the WC. How's he supposed to be "guided" in that time? 8-) Trying to change how he's been successful in Domestic cricket over a few games isn't going to achieve much.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I agree with Jack, I think he's crucial. If Tait bowls consistently well, Australia should really win the WC. If he doesn't they still might, but it's much easier to see them losing a knockout game at some stage. If he's taking a couple of early wickets though, it makes a massive difference given the calibre of support there is.

Without Lee, Australia's attack looks a fair bit more fallible than normal. It's certainly not clearly better than South Africa's, as things stand. McGrath's not quite as unstoppable as he used to be, and regardless, it's just he and Bracken. Hogg's a good bowler but not someone you'd rely on to win games on his own, and Watson's just decent support at best. The difference between having two top class ODI bowlers and three is a huge one IMO, and it takes a lot of pressure off the support guys when Lee is in the team too. Hogg's a much better bowler with those guys behind him than when he's required to bowl a great spell and get the side out of trouble.

Tait's the variable in all that.
TBH i can't understand how you guys think that Tait will make a significant difference to the attack. His way to inexperience and has very little control, all he really cares about is pace. Granted i can see him taking early wickets or late wickets bowling at the depth. But his got more chance of losing you a game, then winning you a match. Really if Bracken and MacGrath don't fire Australia's bowling attack is very much a weak link. Even if he fires South Africa attack is fair bit better ATM.
 

pup11

International Coach
We all need to realize that Tait is not any worse than Lee was when he was 23, but Taito has some qualities that come natural to him which Lee took such a long time to develop.

Risk with Tait is worth taking because if he gets his radar right then he just destroys the opposition.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
He's played all of 4 or 5 games before the WC. How's he supposed to be "guided" in that time? 8-) Trying to change how he's been successful in Domestic cricket over a few games isn't going to achieve much.
Well really when they were swapping and changing their bowling attack last season and he was fit they should have brought him in and worked on areas of his game like they did with Johnson. They took like 20 guys at the start of Champions Trophy tour.
 

pup11

International Coach
To say that Tait doesn't add a new dimension to this Aussie attack is wrong.

He is an unique bowler and he sure is the next best option in Australia to fill Lee's boots (maybe not with the same effect as Lee, but still effective in his own way).

Anyways we have Clark and Johnson on the bench both of whom have been equally expensive as Tait in recent times.
 

pup11

International Coach
I really can't understand all this talk of Pidge not being not the same bowler he was, i mean he is not talking the new ball anymore but still he was the ( or,one of the most) highest wicket-taker in the CB series and Australia's most economical bowler in NZ.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I really can't understand all this talk of Pidge not being not the same bowler he was, i mean he is not talking the new ball anymore but still he was the ( or,one of the most) highest wicket-taker in the CB series and Australia's most economical bowler in NZ.
He had six bad games in row from the end of the CB Series and CH Series. But apart from that he hasn't been bowling that bad really. His form at the start of CH Series was brillant. But a lot people only have short term memories TBH, six bad games and he is pasted it.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I think if Tait picks 20 wickets is this WC aussies would win the WC
The same can be said of every bowler in the squad. Why pick Tait to say such a thing now?
We all need to realize that Tait is not any worse than Lee was when he was 23
And how good was Lee? Not very good.
To say that Tait doesn't add a new dimension to this Aussie attack is wrong.
All bowlers add "new" dimensions, it's just a case of what that dimension is. If it's repeatedly going for 5-6-an-over, it's a dimension the side can do without.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Tait will be pretty vital - but that's obvious when your talking about one of your four specialist bowlers.

I think if he does bowl well he will be a big part of the Australian teams success. He doesn't need to take 20 wickets - 10 would do, especially if he keeps his economy rate down.

I think the current apparent plan to use him is the right approach, and I think he has more potential to be the solution for bowling at the death with McGrath than anyone else at the moment.

For someone only concerned with pace, he does seem to do ok generating both normal and reverse swing as well, from what I've seen.
 

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