Ricky Ponting vs Kumar Sangakkara

[Migara]

Pointing, David, Kallis, Sanga

all very close

As batsmen. Kallis and Sanga are way ahead as players than the other two.

 

[Migara]

Sangakkara was able to do these kinds of magic behind the wickets. Comes up to stumps against a bowler bowling 125-130k and pulls this off against one of the best batsman.

 

[shortpitched713]

Sangakkara was able to do these kinds of magic behind the wickets. Comes up to stumps against a bowler bowling 125-130k and pulls this off against one of the best batsman.

Love how Vaas's immediate reaction wasn't super thrilled by it. Like, bad enough the lads standing up to me, he really have to get a stumping to rub it in?

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Sangakkara was able to do these kinds of magic behind the wickets. Comes up to stumps against a bowler bowling 125-130k and pulls this off against one of the best batsman.

Gilchrist did the same too…against 136kph of McGrath

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Nah, we are including ODis also, since keeping is almost identical in both situations.

I am not sure what you ameant by Malinga's effectiveness. It doesn't matter Malinga or Fernando troubled batsmen. Malinga was tough to keep because of his release and variations. Fernando was tough because he sprayed it around. Brett Lee was fast but very accurate. For example, If you get Akthar and Sami, although Akthar is faster he is easier to keep because he is accurate

Simply your argument has no merit. Sanga kept for more varied attacks, on spinning pitches and pitches with variable bounce than Gilchrist. And he was bloody brilliant on them.

@capt_Luffy I would love to hear your take on this.

Keeping to an unaccurate bowler might be more difficult than keeping to an accurate one, but in Tests I guess keeping to accurate bowlers should be held highly because the more chances to getting dismissals is there. In Tests definitely a wicket is worth more than two 4 byes.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@capt_Luffy I would love to hear your take on this.

Keeping to an unaccurate bowler might be more difficult than keeping to an accurate one, but in Tests I guess keeping to accurate bowlers should be held highly because the more chances to getting dismissals is there. In Tests definitely a wicket is worth more than two 4 byes.

You keep for 50 overs in an ODI and no one really minds a drop chance significantly. Not to mention the movement of the ball is significantly less. In Tests it could be upwards of 150 overs in an innings. Don't think they are as different as batting, but cross format comparison isn't that useful here either imo. For a single ball, it's fine to show he can keep to 130 up to the stumps and stump someone, But overall, not really the same demands and priorities.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

You keep for 50 overs in an ODI and no one really minds a drop chance significantly. Not to mention the movement of the ball is significantly less. In Tests it could be upwards of 150 overs in an innings. Don't think they are as different as batting, but cross format comparison isn't that useful here either imo. For a single ball, it's fine to show he can keep to 130 up to the stumps and stump someone, But overall, not really the same demands and priorities.

I was asking about keeping to an accurate bowler like Kumble with that of Strang. You get more dismissals when Kumble bowls than Strang. A wicket >> two 4 byes? in Tests.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I was asking about keeping to an accurate bowler like Kumble with that of Strang. You get more dismissals when Kumble bowls than Strang. A wicket >> two 4 byes? in Tests.

I don't think it's a fair 1-0-1 comparison really. Kumble will also give you more chances so any Strang will create is more valuable to grab.

 

[Coronis]

Gilchrist did the same too…against 136kph of McGrath

Exactly… both Gilchrist and Sanga were talented keepers, and I’ve always had them around the same level as keepers, great, but not ATG.

 

[Migara]

@capt_Luffy I would love to hear your take on this.

Keeping to an unaccurate bowler might be more difficult than keeping to an accurate one, but in Tests I guess keeping to accurate bowlers should be held highly because the more chances to getting dismissals is there. In Tests definitely a wicket is worth more than two 4 byes.

For accurate bowlers you could anticipate things from release, action and angle of delivery. But when the bowler has no idea which way ball is going to seam or swing, or how fast it is released from the hand, it comes down to pure primal skills of wicket keeping. Catching the edge off inaccurate bowlers is a bonus, and that is where real wicket keeping comes in.

 

[Migara]

Gilchrist did the same too…against 136kph of McGrath

So they are in the same class. Case closed.