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Official Rugby Thread
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wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Always on the cards, wasn't it. Presumably the point of Erasmus's antics this week was to see what they could get away with if they put enough pressure of the match officials.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Sad to say it does seem to be working somewhat.
Kolbe taking Murray in the air looked a pretty clear red to me, but the ref only brought out a yellow.
Might be completely coincidental, but one can't help but wonder if Rassie's rant was lurking in the back of the officials' minds.
Howe_zat
Audio File
They tend to rule yellow/red based on outcome when taking a man in the air, don't they? In which case it' yellow because Murray doesn't land head or neck first.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
They do, but I'm not sure if it's backed up by the laws as written.
I remember Daly seeing red v Argentina a few years back for taking a man in the air (I was present at Twickers to witness it) and from memory the recipient of his ham fisted tackle wasn't seriously hurt.
Had been drinking though and am hardly an unbiased observer, so could be wrong.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
You or Daly?
Flem274*
123/5
this post is the closest cw has ever come to r/rugbyunion
havent watched the rant because i cbf but union refs in general arent great and we dont want to get any closer to the nrl, where the melbourne storm can take a nap on a bloke with no issues but if a club with no money is a microsecond too slow it's 6 more.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
Two major issues in Rugby refereeing.
There is way to many technical rules. These rules largely exist because an apparent problem is found in the rules and so they create a new rule to try fix. Hugely cumbersome and what happens is these rules are ‘open to interpretation’ ie some refs blow them some don’t and some blow them half the time.
Secondly, most of these rule fixes are because the actual rules are not enforced correctly. All the offside and entry rules at breakdown should be strictly enforced. The argument people have against this would mean that the ref would be blowing his whistle every ten seconds is nonsense, because players would then have to learn and stop doing it.
It is always eye opening to watch the 6 nations and then the 4 nations and see the refs interpret the same set of rules completely differently.
The best refs are the ones who penalize constantly and consistently for those little breakdown infringements because ten minutes into the game the players suddenly stop doing it. Almost like children testing boundaries!
There is way to many technical rules. These rules largely exist because an apparent problem is found in the rules and so they create a new rule to try fix. Hugely cumbersome and what happens is these rules are ‘open to interpretation’ ie some refs blow them some don’t and some blow them half the time.
Secondly, most of these rule fixes are because the actual rules are not enforced correctly. All the offside and entry rules at breakdown should be strictly enforced. The argument people have against this would mean that the ref would be blowing his whistle every ten seconds is nonsense, because players would then have to learn and stop doing it.
It is always eye opening to watch the 6 nations and then the 4 nations and see the refs interpret the same set of rules completely differently.
The best refs are the ones who penalize constantly and consistently for those little breakdown infringements because ten minutes into the game the players suddenly stop doing it. Almost like children testing boundaries!
BoyBrumby
Englishman
The pictures look bad, I agree.
That said I didn't really notice during the game and neither did the officials, from the lack of any time spent reviewing it.
Current climate though it should be a citing and a few weeks rest.
Hogg's, ah, dental interface(?) with Bill le Roux's arm looks far worse though:
No place for that in rugby. Seen players get six months for similar.
That said I didn't really notice during the game and neither did the officials, from the lack of any time spent reviewing it.
Current climate though it should be a citing and a few weeks rest.
Hogg's, ah, dental interface(?) with Bill le Roux's arm looks far worse though:
No place for that in rugby. Seen players get six months for similar.
Heboric
International Debutant
My broadcast I was watching hilighted the Itoje knee, but not the 'biting' incident.
Looking at that gif, the whole thing looks odd
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Itoje's knee does seem a bit more six and two threes looking at the video.
He only seems to apply pressure after de Allende throws a (quarter arsed) punch:
Throwing his arms in the air like a prima ballerina not a great visual for a lock either.
He only seems to apply pressure after de Allende throws a (quarter arsed) punch:
Throwing his arms in the air like a prima ballerina not a great visual for a lock either.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
Does that make it some how acceptable?