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One of the (relatively) disappointing things about Richardson is that this is his danger period. I don't have the stats, but the number of times when I've been following matches that he's got out in the last 15-20 overs, having batted all day and having scored somewhere between 70 and 99, seems from memory to be quite high.
Hope I'm not putting the mockers on him today...
But I guess that explains why his conversion rate is so low. He concentrates like a fiend for 5 hours and then struggles to maintain it to stumps.
There, he's just edged it!
Hope I'm not putting the mockers on him today...
But I guess that explains why his conversion rate is so low. He concentrates like a fiend for 5 hours and then struggles to maintain it to stumps.
There, he's just edged it!
Loony BoB
International Captain
That's it, ban Grubb!
All the same, a nice innings from Richardson - while we could all say it's a shame he didn't get those 6 extra runs, 100 is just another number and 94 is still a great contribution.
In comes Tuffey to play nightwatchman - further proof that Vettori (who was once the standard and regular nightwatchman for NZ) is now valued as a batsman.
All the same, a nice innings from Richardson - while we could all say it's a shame he didn't get those 6 extra runs, 100 is just another number and 94 is still a great contribution.
In comes Tuffey to play nightwatchman - further proof that Vettori (who was once the standard and regular nightwatchman for NZ) is now valued as a batsman.
Sorry everyone, I should've kept my nervous reflections to myself. At least he got out to a howling decision rather than a lapse of concentration... But small consolation.
For a player who bats time, all he needs to do is get a few more singles in the post lunch session and he'll be knocking up hundreds every few matches.
Was a very handy partnership though, with Oram. Score's looking rather healthier than it was.
For a player who bats time, all he needs to do is get a few more singles in the post lunch session and he'll be knocking up hundreds every few matches.
Was a very handy partnership though, with Oram. Score's looking rather healthier than it was.
Here are the stats for Richardson scores between 70-99 with NZ batting first in first innings of match. This is from a total of 31 test matches.
99 1 lbw 1 W 2nd Test v Zim in Zim 2000/01 at Harare [1511]
75 1 run out 1 D Only Test v Zim in NZ 2000/01 at Wellington [1524]
83 1 caught 2 W 2nd Test v BD in NZ 2001/02 at Wellington [1579]
95 1 caught 1 D 2nd Test v WI in WI 2002 at St George's [1608]
89 1 lbw 2 W 1st Test v Ind in NZ 2002/03 at Wellington [1631]
85 1 bowled 1 D 1st Test v SL in SL 2003 at Colombo (PSS) [1641]
82 1 caught 1 L 2nd Test v Pak in NZ 2003/04 at Wellington [1677]
+ 94 lbw today.
you've got your reason why he has only three test hundreds. I'll bet that most of these dismissals came in the last 20 overs of the day.
99 1 lbw 1 W 2nd Test v Zim in Zim 2000/01 at Harare [1511]
75 1 run out 1 D Only Test v Zim in NZ 2000/01 at Wellington [1524]
83 1 caught 2 W 2nd Test v BD in NZ 2001/02 at Wellington [1579]
95 1 caught 1 D 2nd Test v WI in WI 2002 at St George's [1608]
89 1 lbw 2 W 1st Test v Ind in NZ 2002/03 at Wellington [1631]
85 1 bowled 1 D 1st Test v SL in SL 2003 at Colombo (PSS) [1641]
82 1 caught 1 L 2nd Test v Pak in NZ 2003/04 at Wellington [1677]
+ 94 lbw today.
you've got your reason why he has only three test hundreds. I'll bet that most of these dismissals came in the last 20 overs of the day.
A bit harsh that in his first ever innings he didn't conceed a single bye until the West Indies had gone past 700! - Yet he is terible because he has conceeded 8, in 90 overs of play he only needs to miss the ball twice to conceed 8 runs, 90 overs is equal to 540 balls and to miss two isn't a bad effort.Andre said:Geriant Jones has conceeded 8 byes today......He need to score runs to justify his selection, because that's a fair load of byes for an international keeper in a days play...
And If I recall he batting pretty well already in the WI's scoring 39 in his debut inngs and I can't remember the 2nd inngs of hand, that's probley more than Read got in 11 ings!
PY
International Coach
He did have a few shocking lapses in concentration today but I won't judge him on that because as has been mentioned, Lord's is a shocker to keep on. Still remember Boucher and Stewart having problems last summer.
Although he does play for Kent so by definition he is crap.
Although he does play for Kent so by definition he is crap.
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
He didn't concede any byes because Lara didn't let much past!Rich2001 said:
I wasn't totally convinced by Oram's batting today - played away from his body a lot, but our bowling wasn't really good enough often enough to make that a big issue.. and Giles bowled some pies I'd have been ashamed of!
Poor old Rigger. He'd got past his 'Hillary Step' at the 5 hour mark, 7 runs short of the honours board...but denied. The Poms went up for so many hopeful appeals it made a mockery of Bryan Waddle's Asian stereotype, but in the end they were vindicated. At 284/4, NZ could've been eyeing a par score of about 500. Never mind!
By the way, is 'protecting' Vettori by batting him at 10 one of the dumbest things a Fleming-led side has ever done?
I just don't get that at all. It's not like Martin can defend like Tuffey, so now there's going to be one heck of a batsman walking off not out tomorrow. All to protect one of our guns from 17 balls, that in the end weren't even completed.
By the way, is 'protecting' Vettori by batting him at 10 one of the dumbest things a Fleming-led side has ever done?
I just don't get that at all. It's not like Martin can defend like Tuffey, so now there's going to be one heck of a batsman walking off not out tomorrow. All to protect one of our guns from 17 balls, that in the end weren't even completed.
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SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
Well he did give a few of you lot not out when replays showed they were very luckynibblet said:
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Astle when the score was 60-1, when the bat hit the pad at the same time as it hit the ball on its way through to the keeper.
Can't remember any other major letoffs.
Can't remember any other major letoffs.
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
Oram LBW shout from Giles which was shown by hawkeye to be hitting leg stump.Neil Pickup said:
Langeveldt
Soutie
Sheesh, the man Richardson reminds me of good old Gary Kirsten.. Not elegant enough to come from the Hingston school of batting though...
Lovely to see in these smash and grab days of cricket... He could be very difficult to remove in future, and recieved a shocker from an umpire who seems to give too many shockers.
Lovely to see in these smash and grab days of cricket... He could be very difficult to remove in future, and recieved a shocker from an umpire who seems to give too many shockers.
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badgerhair
U19 Vice-Captain
(My day at Lord's)
There are new notices all over the Pavilion telling Members that the
use of mobile phones anywhere in the Pavilion (including the concourse
and balconies) is *strictly* forbidden, which helped to keep the noise
down a bit, so it was a mild shock to hear someone blethering into one
on the bus home. But what he was saying was about right: "It was an
interesting day rather than an exhilarating one." And if the rest of
the series is of this quality, we're in for a tough series with the
result entirely unpredictable from this point.
For most of the day, it reminded me of heavyweight boxing: these teams
are awfully big - Graham Thorpe is a reasonably ordinary-sized bloke,
but amongst this lot, he looks more like Harry Pilling. And the two
teams spent several hours slugging at each other winning a round here,
losing a round there, with no real advantage being gained either way,
until a little flurry at the end.
The sun was bright as I arrived, and it was pleasantly warm. It seemed
only appropriate that the middle doors and windows of the Long Room
were wearing sunglasses. That's what it looked like from inside behind
the new contravision sightscreen which looks white enough from the
middle, judging by the TV coverage. There will apparently be "other
arrangements" when there is a white ball in use.
It was a day on which to bat, and Fleming did. Hoggard opened up from
the Pavilion End, and Harmison from the Nursery, each with two overs
of complete tripe which got clattered around for 26. They got some
control back after that, but New Zealand were off and motoring and
kept the score chugging along at a good rate until the drinks
interval.
Not that England were without encouragement: the sponsors had arranged
free entry for hundreds of schoolkids, who formed a large block in the
Mound Stand, with treble voices piping "England! England!" as a sort
of Barmy Cadet Force. (Since the trips are arranged through the
schools and are supervised by teachers, they all get back on the bus
at tea-time, leaving the choral efforts to the Army, who basically
hadn't turned up or had gone to sleep by then.)
Neither Harmison nor Hoggard had really made either batsman play when
they didn't feel like getting a boundary, and Flintoff and Jones took
over. Scoring ground to a halt. H&H had basically been pitching it
short and wondering what would happen, but F&J adopted the plan of
bowling back of a length outside off in a disciplined and accurate
way, and after four consecutive maidens Fleming was frustrated enough
to chase a wider one from Jones and give a hard catch above Strauss's
head at backward point.
Astle arrived and was obviously keen to get on with it, but had little
idea of where the ball was. He got runs because he sometimes made
contact and the ball ended up going where there wasn't a fielder, but
neither he nor the bowler could have had much idea why.
80/1 at lunch was a good-looking score, but England seemed to be right
back in it.
So after lunch, the events of the first session were repeated, though
this time it was Astle playing positively - now scoring his runs by
*deciding* to hit the ball where there weren't any fielders and
carrying out his intentions - while Hoggard and Harmison served up
obligingly unintelligent bowling, and the score rattled along to 150
in no time flat, sometimes known as "an hour or so".
Time for F&J to put a stop to the nonsense, which they did, Flintoff
striking first by getting one to leave Astle and edge a catch to Jones
the Mitt, and Jones the Ball doing the same for Styris very shortly
afterwards. Given what else Jones the Mitt did behind the stumps,
this was really rather surprising. Adam Gilchrist's dubious claims to
be regarded as a Test-class wicketkeeper will certainly be enhanced if
this kind of rubbish is considered acceptable. For keeping of this
standard, we require centuries as payback for keeping Read out, not
pretty 30s and 40s.
Macmillan came and hung around for a bit, looking most uncomfortable,
and then went in to tea.
He came out again after tea and still looked uncomfortable, even
though H&H were back on. The difference was that they had switched
ends, and both looked immediately more effective. There were a number
of maidens, and a couple of runs, and then Hoggard trapped Macmillan
plumb lbw and it was 174/4.
Oram's name had been first out of the hat for the middle order place,
and he started to look very convincing very quickly. Off the last ball
off one Harmison over, and the first ball of his next one, he simply
leaned into straight drives which whistled past the stumps into the
Pavilion fence. Even so, scoring was still difficult, and it had
become exceedingly grey overhead. 180-odd/4 looked like being about
230 by the close, which would not have represented any great profit
for winning the toss. But England were also falling behind the rate,
and the new ball was approaching, so it was time to wheel on El Rey de
Espana.
Oram must have thought it was his birthday. One doesn't expect much of
Giles, but he didn't live up to even those expectations. Oram just
belted him all over the place and grabbed the momentum for New
Zealand.
Eventually, the new ball arrived, taken first by Flintoff and
Harmison. Although Flintoff had been the second-best bowler on show to
Jones the Ball, who was mostly in the good-to-very-good range today,
Jones is known not to like the shiny cherry, so Fred had to do it.
Suddenly, there was an appeal, Harmison was delighted, and a bloke
called Richardson walked back to the Pavilion. A lot of people
clapped, although I couldn't quite work out why. He'd been willing
enough to run up and down while the other blokes batted, but the
applause seemed rather excessive to me.
Oram was definitely Man Of The Day, being the first player to take the
game and shake it roughly by the throat and give his side an
advantage.
However, this is a pitch which has been feeling listless for some time
and it could well be completely dead by the middle of Saturday. I
think it's going to be difficult for anyone to take wickets on this
surface, as it seems pretty unlikely to break up and give feeble
spinners like Giles and the Vettori of the last couple of years the
massive assistance they would need to trouble a halfway decent
batsman. Though it is possible that the underduck ball will be a
potent weapon, if any of the pacers know how to bowl it.
Cheers,
Mike
There are new notices all over the Pavilion telling Members that the
use of mobile phones anywhere in the Pavilion (including the concourse
and balconies) is *strictly* forbidden, which helped to keep the noise
down a bit, so it was a mild shock to hear someone blethering into one
on the bus home. But what he was saying was about right: "It was an
interesting day rather than an exhilarating one." And if the rest of
the series is of this quality, we're in for a tough series with the
result entirely unpredictable from this point.
For most of the day, it reminded me of heavyweight boxing: these teams
are awfully big - Graham Thorpe is a reasonably ordinary-sized bloke,
but amongst this lot, he looks more like Harry Pilling. And the two
teams spent several hours slugging at each other winning a round here,
losing a round there, with no real advantage being gained either way,
until a little flurry at the end.
The sun was bright as I arrived, and it was pleasantly warm. It seemed
only appropriate that the middle doors and windows of the Long Room
were wearing sunglasses. That's what it looked like from inside behind
the new contravision sightscreen which looks white enough from the
middle, judging by the TV coverage. There will apparently be "other
arrangements" when there is a white ball in use.
It was a day on which to bat, and Fleming did. Hoggard opened up from
the Pavilion End, and Harmison from the Nursery, each with two overs
of complete tripe which got clattered around for 26. They got some
control back after that, but New Zealand were off and motoring and
kept the score chugging along at a good rate until the drinks
interval.
Not that England were without encouragement: the sponsors had arranged
free entry for hundreds of schoolkids, who formed a large block in the
Mound Stand, with treble voices piping "England! England!" as a sort
of Barmy Cadet Force. (Since the trips are arranged through the
schools and are supervised by teachers, they all get back on the bus
at tea-time, leaving the choral efforts to the Army, who basically
hadn't turned up or had gone to sleep by then.)
Neither Harmison nor Hoggard had really made either batsman play when
they didn't feel like getting a boundary, and Flintoff and Jones took
over. Scoring ground to a halt. H&H had basically been pitching it
short and wondering what would happen, but F&J adopted the plan of
bowling back of a length outside off in a disciplined and accurate
way, and after four consecutive maidens Fleming was frustrated enough
to chase a wider one from Jones and give a hard catch above Strauss's
head at backward point.
Astle arrived and was obviously keen to get on with it, but had little
idea of where the ball was. He got runs because he sometimes made
contact and the ball ended up going where there wasn't a fielder, but
neither he nor the bowler could have had much idea why.
80/1 at lunch was a good-looking score, but England seemed to be right
back in it.
So after lunch, the events of the first session were repeated, though
this time it was Astle playing positively - now scoring his runs by
*deciding* to hit the ball where there weren't any fielders and
carrying out his intentions - while Hoggard and Harmison served up
obligingly unintelligent bowling, and the score rattled along to 150
in no time flat, sometimes known as "an hour or so".
Time for F&J to put a stop to the nonsense, which they did, Flintoff
striking first by getting one to leave Astle and edge a catch to Jones
the Mitt, and Jones the Ball doing the same for Styris very shortly
afterwards. Given what else Jones the Mitt did behind the stumps,
this was really rather surprising. Adam Gilchrist's dubious claims to
be regarded as a Test-class wicketkeeper will certainly be enhanced if
this kind of rubbish is considered acceptable. For keeping of this
standard, we require centuries as payback for keeping Read out, not
pretty 30s and 40s.
Macmillan came and hung around for a bit, looking most uncomfortable,
and then went in to tea.
He came out again after tea and still looked uncomfortable, even
though H&H were back on. The difference was that they had switched
ends, and both looked immediately more effective. There were a number
of maidens, and a couple of runs, and then Hoggard trapped Macmillan
plumb lbw and it was 174/4.
Oram's name had been first out of the hat for the middle order place,
and he started to look very convincing very quickly. Off the last ball
off one Harmison over, and the first ball of his next one, he simply
leaned into straight drives which whistled past the stumps into the
Pavilion fence. Even so, scoring was still difficult, and it had
become exceedingly grey overhead. 180-odd/4 looked like being about
230 by the close, which would not have represented any great profit
for winning the toss. But England were also falling behind the rate,
and the new ball was approaching, so it was time to wheel on El Rey de
Espana.
Oram must have thought it was his birthday. One doesn't expect much of
Giles, but he didn't live up to even those expectations. Oram just
belted him all over the place and grabbed the momentum for New
Zealand.
Eventually, the new ball arrived, taken first by Flintoff and
Harmison. Although Flintoff had been the second-best bowler on show to
Jones the Ball, who was mostly in the good-to-very-good range today,
Jones is known not to like the shiny cherry, so Fred had to do it.
Suddenly, there was an appeal, Harmison was delighted, and a bloke
called Richardson walked back to the Pavilion. A lot of people
clapped, although I couldn't quite work out why. He'd been willing
enough to run up and down while the other blokes batted, but the
applause seemed rather excessive to me.
Oram was definitely Man Of The Day, being the first player to take the
game and shake it roughly by the throat and give his side an
advantage.
However, this is a pitch which has been feeling listless for some time
and it could well be completely dead by the middle of Saturday. I
think it's going to be difficult for anyone to take wickets on this
surface, as it seems pretty unlikely to break up and give feeble
spinners like Giles and the Vettori of the last couple of years the
massive assistance they would need to trouble a halfway decent
batsman. Though it is possible that the underduck ball will be a
potent weapon, if any of the pacers know how to bowl it.
Cheers,
Mike