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**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

bryce

bryce

International Regular
no the post mentions two players, the first bit is adam gilchrist : "We've got one player in our side who walks".

and then the second part refers to a player who has decided they are going to be a walker now: "We've got one player who has come out and said he's going to be a walker now".

it can't mean adam gilchrist because he decided a while ago he was going to be a walker and it says the player has decided 'now' so is there someone who has decided to become a walker in the aussie team ?
 
Mr Casson

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
Darrin said:
Mathew sinclair stands his ground because he's wasn't sure it was caught or not and he becomes a leper in the aussies eyes.
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For the record, Sinclair was given out. There's a difference between dissent and waiting for the umpire to make a decision.
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
JustTool said:
Looks like, for all their posturing in India, Ponting has finally spoken up and said the Aussies will continue to try to cheat when they can - it is inane, and typical Aussie hypocrisy, that they should sledge opposing batsmen for not walking while their captain is saying this:

Australian captain Ricky Ponting said Gilchrist was the only declared "walker" in the Australian team and there was no such expectation on opposing sides to do likewise.

"I have to look after what my team is doing and hope that we can change things slightly in the game there, but it's up to New Zealand to do whatever they want to do," he told his post-match press conference.

"We've got one player in our side who walks. We've got one player who has come out and said he's going to be a walker now.

"It doesn't put any pressure on anybody else, it doesn't change anything else whatsoever.

"Adam doesn't expect it of anybody else - he doesn't expect anybody else to walk. He doesn't expect it of our team either."

-AFP
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You are what your name suggests.
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
Mr Casson said:
Gilly has shown a willingness to play the game in a fair spirit e.g. walking, suggesting that cricketers take fielder's words on close catches etc... I'm curious as to what makes you think that he would appeal for something he knew was not out? Especially something which on replay was so obviously far away from the bat. Don't you think that if he just KNEW the batsman hadn't touched it, he'd pick a closer decision than that one? I think everyone was just done in by a freak ball.

In the end, the buck should stop with the umpire who makes the decision.
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Yes mate! That's exactly it - "it was so obviously far away from the bat". I don't know you all that well, but I'd venture that you haven't played much cricket. It beggars belief that you think that Gilchrist didn't know that the ball was not edged- he is the keeper; he has the best view; the ball missed the bat by at least a couple of inches!

I suppose when Sehwag was given out when he smashed that ball onto his pad in India, and Gilly went up for LBW, you thought Gilly had no idea that there was an edge too? The guy is a hypocrite! Either you are committed to fair play - in which case you walk and DO NOT APPEAL WHEN YOU KNOW THE BATSMAN IS NOT OUT - or you're just like any other cricketer and get what you can out of the umpire.

I have no problem with Gilly, as a keeper, getting what he can out of the umpire. But I do have a problem when he parades around - and read his book for evidence of this - as some sort of cricketing equivalent to Mother Teresa, just because he walks....and yet appeals when he knows a batsman is not out. It's a blatant double standard.
 
Mr Casson

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
howardj said:
Yes mate! That's exactly it - "it was so obviously far away from the bat". I don't know you all that well, but I'd venture that you haven't played much cricket. It beggars belief that you think that Gilchrist didn't know that the ball was not edged- he is the keeper; he has the best view; the ball missed the bat by at least a couple of inches!

I suppose when Sehwag was given out when he smashed that ball onto his pad in India, and Gilly went up for LBW, you thought Gilly had no idea that there was an edge too? The guy is a hypocrite! Either you are committed to fair play - in which case you walk and DO NOT APPEAL WHEN YOU KNOW THE BATSMAN IS NOT OUT - or you're just like any other cricketer and get what you can out of the umpire.

I have no problem with Gilly, as a keeper, getting what he can out of the umpire. But I do have a problem when he parades around - and read his book for evidence of this - as some sort of cricketing equivalent to Mother Teresa, just because he walks....and yet appeals when he knows a batsman is not out. It's a blatant double standard.
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Where do you get off, assuming that you have the answers to what Gilly thinks or knows?

Assumptions are the mother of all f***-ups.
 
Arjun

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What's your opinion of Robert Fulton? I have not seen much of him in action, but he has good domestic averages, for a NZ batsman, at the domestic level. Not too many who have been considered for the national team have such averages. Where can he bat best?
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
Arjun said:
Could someone explain why Matthew Sinclair is opening a Test innings?
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Because perhaps he is the best short-term option that they have available with Papps injured, and Jamie How isn't in Australia is because of his own fault.

He didn't look to bad in the first innings, are you suggesting Fleming opens in Adelaide?
 
bryce

bryce

International Regular
Arjun said:
Could someone explain why Matthew Sinclair is opening a Test innings?
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the only other possible opener michael papps was injured for the bangladesh tour so sinclair(who replaced papps) was the only real choice to open given new zealands shortage of openers, since sinclair performed opening against bangladesh he was given the green light to open against aussie, and papps - who had recovered from injury in time to go to aussie was not selected.
i think it is just so they can fit everyone they want in the batting line-up though because they seem to have made something of a 'commitment' to sinclair, there are also no other openers in new zealand who have come close to warranting test selection.
 
bryce

bryce

International Regular
Craig said:
Because perhaps he is the best short-term option that they have available with Papps injured....
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papps isn't injured, in fact he scored a century today.
 
Craig

Craig

World Traveller
Arjun said:
What's your opinion of Robert Fulton? I have not seen much of him in action, but he has good domestic averages, for a NZ batsman, at the domestic level. Not too many who have been considered for the national team have such averages. Where can he bat best?
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Numbers 3 or 4 I would say. He will make his Test debut within the next 12 months barring injury or a bad run of form. 18 months at worst.
 
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