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***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2016/17

Bahnz

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From what I've seen of him this season, Ryder looks village. Not sure whether it's the niggle he's carrying, or a lack of cricket or what, but it's really sad to see.
 

Zinzan

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From what I've seen of him this season, Ryder looks village. Not sure whether it's the niggle he's carrying, or a lack of cricket or what, but it's really sad to see.
Not surprising if you've been following him in English county cricket in the last couple of years, he's been more of a bowling all-rounder than anything else.

Ryder's 32 now, he's probably lost his great eye ever so slightly from 5 or so years ago, at least enough to make a difference when you're a hand-eye player without much technique to fall back on as Ryder is.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
Not surprising if you've been following him in English county cricket in the last couple of years, he's been more of a bowling all-rounder than anything else.

Ryder's 32 now, he's probably lost his great eye ever so slightly from 5 or so years ago, at least enough to make a difference when you're a hand-eye player without much technique to fall back on as Ryder is.
Now he hasn't bowled in months according to cricinfo, either. Just looked really out of shape yesterday.

Maybe in another five years or so people in the stuff/fb comments will even stop going on about him.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Must be quite an apprenticeship for the groundsmen down st Lincoln as well.

I see the u17s starts almost immediately after the As, also at Lincoln. The As started about a week after the u19s.

That's almost a game per day on the 3 grounds for a month solid. Except the odd rest day and the week over Xmas between the u19s and the As.

A few teams opening the bowling with a spinner may tell that the pitches get tired.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
A few days ago when I checked, I was thinking how well the U18s were going in the A tournament. But they've gotten their beans since then in their next 2 games.
 

vcs

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Not surprising if you've been following him in English county cricket in the last couple of years, he's been more of a bowling all-rounder than anything else.

Ryder's 32 now, he's probably lost his great eye ever so slightly from 5 or so years ago, at least enough to make a difference when you're a hand-eye player without much technique to fall back on as Ryder is.
I always thought Ryder had a very good technique for Test cricket. Looked very comfortable facing spin in India in 2010 and was by far NZ's best batsman. Rarely did he look hurried against pace bowlers either. Having said that, I only watched him bat vs. India and he loved scoring against us.
 

Zinzan

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I always thought Ryder had a very good technique for Test cricket. Looked very comfortable facing spin in India in 2010 and was by far NZ's best batsman. Rarely did he look hurried against pace bowlers either. Having said that, I only watched him bat vs. India and he loved scoring against us.
It would be wrong to suggest his technique was terrible, but he largely relied on a superb eye and fast hands more than anything else.
 

vcs

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His foot movement was minimal, but his balance was very good. What always struck me about him was how much time he seemed to have to play his shots. Sign of a class batsman.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
He played the ball late, with balance, and with little unnecessary movement, which I would say is a good technique.

Maybe not textbook but good in terms of real fundamental principles of batsmanship. Contrast that with people saying Martin Guptill has a good technique "because he plays in the V, hits the ball back past the bowler, plays straight" etc etc.

Ryder does play across the line a lot since he's become sloggy and he no longer plays as late as he did, and he premeditates way too much, and he's nowhere near as balanced as he used to be.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Yeah, much more than Ryder being a eye-reliant player and his eye becoming less good as he's got older, Ryder's technique has simply deteriorated massively since he played Test cricket.
 
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Blain

U19 Captain
Tymal Mills bowling 147 km, regular mid 140's in the BBL. The NZ super smash had him in the late 130's, why are those guns so slow? It's pretty poor. Just like all domestic coverage I guess..

Wheeler was 125-130 km for the super smash, and in the Blackcaps was 10 clicks quicker.
 

Flem274*

123/5
australian speed guns are rigged as **** tbf but yeah nz domestic radars are strange. if anything i would have expected them to lie that wheeler bowls 145kph to get the tv viewers in
 

inafoxhole

Cricket Spectator
Bracewell definitely **** because Yarrow later got shut down as a cricket venue for the summer.

But Nuttall was on Hagley Oval, which is used for all forms of the game?
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I didn't see the Nuttall injury, not sure if there's any footage around.

Welcome to the forum by the way.
 

vandem

State Captain
Otago seamers today: Viljoen, Scott, Neesham, Wells. Can't recall a slower "pace" bowling combination in NZ for the past couple of decades.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Jamieson injured? Didn't finish his over.

Bugger. Only he and Ferguson currently pressuring our current test 3 seamers.
 

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