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***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2016/17

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Tipping the speed gun at over 150kmh, Auckland's Lockie Ferguson will likely fill the vacancy created by the injured Adam Milne in the Chappell-Hadlee series.
Really? Always picked him as a deceptively not-quick McClenaghan style bowler. So my estimation of him has just gone way up cos FAAAAAASSSSSST > everything :happy:.
 

Blocky

Banned
Really? Always picked him as a deceptively not-quick McClenaghan style bowler. So my estimation of him has just gone way up cos FAAAAAASSSSSST > everything :happy:.
When everything is on song and clicks he can touch 150, but not "over" 150... he's more a 140-145kmh bowler.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah even accounting for the ever-present 5km/h exaggeration when talking fast bowlers, I wouldn't have even said 145. Will wait and see when he bowls in the Chappel Hadlee (which I forgot was even happening tbh).
 

Blain

U19 Captain
We need to develop a right arm in-swing bowler, ASAP...

In NZ conditions, bringing it back into the right hander as a right hand bowler has always been lethal (Bond, Martin, O'Brien) and would be a true difference maker to the left armers we've got doing the same thing from their over the wicket angle.

You should check out Rhance's wicket in the current match. Crazy swing.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
It's not quite a hall-of-fame Rob Nicol dismissal today but definitely a gee-this-is-coming-short-and-I've-got-no-idea-what-to-do dismissal. Soft as anything.

Jamieson one away from the 10-fer.
 

Chewie

International Vice-Captain
Ferguson named in Chappell Hadlee ODI squad

BLACKCAPS Chappell Hadlee squad

Kane Williamson (c)
Todd Astle
Trent Boult
Lockie Ferguson
Martin Guptill
Colin de Grandhomme
Matt Henry
Tom Latham
Colin Munro
Jimmy Neesham
Henry Nicholls
Mitchell Santner
Tim Southee
BJ Watling

Not considered due to injury: Ross Taylor, Adam Milne, Mitchell McClenaghan, George Worker, Corey Anderson
 

Mike5181

International Captain
Something like this I guess:

Martin Guptill
Tom Latham
Kane Williamson (c)
Henry Nicholls
BJ Watling
Colin Munro
Jimmy Neesham
Mitchell Santner
Tim Southee
Matt Henry
Trent Boult

Reserves:
Lockie Ferguson
Todd Astle
Colin de Grandhomme
 

Blocky

Banned
Nah, it's NZ Cricket selection policies - despite DeG being a far better prototype for Limited Overs cricket, they'll convince themselves that he's now a test player only because he did well with the ball in one test.

How long did it take Latham and Williamson to break that, Watling still hasn't.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
My memory of CDG in his last odi stint was: bat too big, bat speed too slow, too orthodox for hitting out under scoreboard and yorker pressure.

Better suited to red ball cricket with orthodox lengths and outfield space.

Am I right? Or was that a small sample size against a really good Saffa attack?
 

Blocky

Banned
My memory of CDG in his last odi stint was: bat too big, bat speed too slow, too orthodox for hitting out under scoreboard and yorker pressure.

Better suited to red ball cricket with orthodox lengths and outfield space.

Am I right? Or was that a small sample size against a really good Saffa attack?
The problem batting at 5-6-7-8 for NZ is that usually you're coming in and having to accelerate immediately because as "successful" as Taylor and Williamson have been, both tend to go at a strike rate that is too low and Williamson in particular gifts his wicket away before really launching and making up for it. It's hard to really rate someone batting for us in those positions, because they're coming out to try and scramble most of the time, rather than finish things off.
 

Blocky

Banned
Yeah, surely his radar isn't tight enough to seriously play ODIs? More bilateral ODIs as Test trials I suppose.
I think it's another Milne/McKay/Gillespie selection, the need for speed, rather than looking at how that speed impacts players even at domestic.

I know it'll come as a shock that I'm supporting this guy - but if they want a pace bowler who can hurry the batsmen up and offer something different, Wagner wouldn't be a bad bet
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Good innings by Chapman to get Auckland close to a successful chase of 361, and Kelly to hold out for over 200 balls to keep ND from losing (tbc); Kippax will be pleased.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
My memory of CDG in his last odi stint was: bat too big, bat speed too slow, too orthodox for hitting out under scoreboard and yorker pressure.

Better suited to red ball cricket with orthodox lengths and outfield space.

Am I right? Or was that a small sample size against a really good Saffa attack?
He averages 25 at List A level, has got slightly better in the last couple of years but accumulating is not his strength. Gets under pressure, can't turn strike over that well, either hits out or gets out. It's definitely a selection based on FC cricket and his sole Test. Great hitter but against good bowling, finds it hard to get down the other end. I wouldn't expect him to be in our best ODI side with Watling, Neesham, Munro, Santner in the middle order.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
So ND saved their match but Auckland have spectacularly collapsed from 340/6, needing 20 to beat Canterbury, to 350 all out :blink:

Nuttall didn't have a wicket in the match until the second session today and ended up with five. Jamieson got 11.
 

Blocky

Banned
So ND saved their match but Auckland have spectacularly collapsed from 340/6, needing 20 to beat Canterbury, to 350 all out :blink:

Nuttall didn't have a wicket in the match until the second session today and ended up with five. Jamieson got 11.
Match fixing.... oh wait, just O'Donnell's selection policies and **** coaching ability, nothing to see here
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Nuttall didn't have a wicket in the match until the second session today and ended up with five.
Just watched these.
A) most of them were **** batting
B) Nuttall has transformed himself from kid with a smooth action and nice swing, to guy with no swing but a jerky action who behaves like a jerk when he takes a wicket
 

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