LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
Rose Bowl, weather is set fair as well.
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*Official* Australia in England T20s and ODIs
- Thread starter James
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England being unchanged is fairly amazing it must be said, I thought the test side was fairly dull but this side really does reach new levels of mediocre.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Hilfenhaus in one day cricket.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I always love this logic. If someone expects someone to be crap at something and they do well, it automatically means they'll be good at everything else everyone thinks they'd be crap at too.
Fact is, while I didn't expect Hilfenhaus to do as well as he has so far in Test cricket, he had the domestic record to suggest he might go okay. In one day cricket he has so such thing.
inbox24
International Debutant
Fact is, I've always rated Hilfenhaus and wanted him to replace McGrath when he retired. So there's goes your first 'argument'.
Secondly he's looked more consistent than Lee, Johnson and even Bracken recently with his lines and lengths and can swing the ball two, something which the former two aren't specialists at. Bracken's run is coming to an end and Hilfen is the man to replace him. Bollinger would then be next.
Secondly he's looked more consistent than Lee, Johnson and even Bracken recently with his lines and lengths and can swing the ball two, something which the former two aren't specialists at. Bracken's run is coming to an end and Hilfen is the man to replace him. Bollinger would then be next.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
No actually, what I said was the logic you were trying to use to go against my opinion. Regardless of why you rate Hilfenhaus and for how long you've done so, replying to
with
is essentially the same as saying
I know you don't merely rate Hilfenhaus simply because of his last Test series because everyone on CricketWeb knows you form opinions early and are extremely unlikely to ever change them based on anything, but that's a separate issue from the way you were trying to put your put your opinion across. That people thought Hilfenhaus would be **** in Tests and he wasn't (for a grand total of four games) doesn't mean he's automatically going to be good at everything else people think he'll be **** at, one day cricket included. They're separate games.
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Stapel
International Regular
Yet, even acknowledging that a fine one-day-bowler and a fine test bowler might be miles apart, I wouldn't think Hilfy would do so poor in ODIs
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
His record for Tasmania suggests otherwise, as does how he's visually gone about it in one day cricket for them. In fact, I think part of the reason I didn't rate Hilfenhaus as highly as I should have was because I'd seen him play so much more one day cricket, where he's average at best for Tassie, than First Class cricket.
He wouldn't be a huge liability in ODIs, but I reckon he'd average about 35 and go at over 5 an over (which is unsurprisingly exactly what he's done in the games he's played so far) which isn't really good enough for a specialist bowler, particularly not for a team with Australia's depth. I actually think Hopes offers more than him and that's saying something.
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SirBloody Idiot
Cricketer Of The Year
Really need to reconsider Prior's place in the one day side.