Non-whites in SA cricket

[Marius]

I dont even think he is south African...I maybe wrong though?????

From what I've gathered from this forum he is a SAn who moved to the UK.

 

[Swervy]

From what I've gathered from this forum he is a SAn who moved to the UK.

oh..you might be right..I always thought he was a Brit who lived in SA as a kid for a bit then moved back here

 

[Craig]

That's one of the ironies of South Africa, often whites (normally Afrikaners) look almost coloured, and nine times out of ten, they are the most racist. The coloureds are a very diverse group, some could almost pass for white, while some look like they are black.

I guess that is why Herschelle Gibbs is considered non-white (I know Cape Coloured if anybody can explain what that means) yet his skin is looks the same as mine?

 

[Langeveldt]

Langeveldt, is it so refreshing to find another South African who can see past all this stupid racist nonsense. Who cares about the colour of people's skin? I don't agree with all AA policies but they are probably for the better. LONG LIVE SA CRICKET!

Heh, thats where you are wrong.. Im a Brit but I used to live in South Africa.. Have always loved the place and am going back in October as things stand.

Maybe not actually having South African blood helps me to be slightly more colourblind.. But either way, colour of skin is irrelevant, and if AA means I have to search harder for a job, then so be it.. Sacrifices like that are worth making sometimes...

 

[Richard]

That is what it'll average out to.

6 extra runs conceded for a much greater percentage increase in wickets over 10 overs.

And you know perfectly well that an increase in an overall 0.6-an-over equates to a difference massively larger than 6 runs per 10 game.

 

[Richard]

Ho ho, look at what he's done, taken out lots of games that happened.

For the record, from debut up to the World Cup he'd played 19 out of 25 games...

I showed the proper ODIs in 2002\03.
Which is what Neil asked about.
And he was not a regular, he missed games before.

 

[Richard]

Langeveldt, is it so refreshing to find another South African who can see past all this stupid racist nonsense. Who cares about the colour of people's skin? I don't agree with all AA policies but they are probably for the better. LONG LIVE SA CRICKET!

Nconde Balfour hardly credited himself with that bullshi* he came out with in 2002\03, which was as racist as anything you'll see.
"I don't go to Newlands to watch Mark Boucher and Jacques Kallis, I go to watch Paul Adams and Makahaya Ntini…who is Jacques Kallis anyway? Jacques Kallis means nothing to me."
Disgraceful... and yet he didn't get reprimanded for it... I wonder, what'd have happened if a white sports-minister had said that the other way around...

 

[Langeveldt]

Nconde Balfour hardly credited himself with that bullshi* he came out with in 2002\03, which was as racist as anything you'll see.
"I don't go to Newlands to watch Mark Boucher and Jacques Kallis, I go to watch Paul Adams and Makahaya Ntini…who is Jacques Kallis anyway? Jacques Kallis means nothing to me."
Disgraceful... and yet he didn't get reprimanded for it... I wonder, what'd have happened if a white sports-minister had said that the other way around...

Is the tool still involved? I certainly haven't heard his name since then..

And, truth be told, I suspect most township kids don't go to the cricket to watch AB De Villiers..

 

[marc71178]

And you know perfectly well that an increase in an overall 0.6-an-over equates to a difference massively larger than 6 runs per 10 game.

Erm how exactly?

Is this some new mathematical theory you have?

 

[marc71178]

I showed the proper ODIs in 2002\03.
Which is what Neil asked about.
And he was not a regular, he missed games before.

I looked at all games since his debut.

No matter what you think of Bangladesh, you can't ignore that he was selected for those games just because you think it suits your argument.

 

[username1234]

Nconde Balfour hardly credited himself with that bullshi* he came out with in 2002\03, which was as racist as anything you'll see.
"I don't go to Newlands to watch Mark Boucher and Jacques Kallis, I go to watch Paul Adams and Makahaya Ntini…who is Jacques Kallis anyway? Jacques Kallis means nothing to me."
Disgraceful... and yet he didn't get reprimanded for it... I wonder, what'd have happened if a white sports-minister had said that the other way around...

That's exactly my point someone in that position can get away with a comment like that for being black. Now if your got people like him involved in your cricket scene then it is rallivent.

 

[Richard]

I looked at all games since his debut.

No matter what you think of Bangladesh, you can't ignore that he was selected for those games just because you think it suits your argument.

I can and I did.
Neil didn't mention the games in 2001\02; he mentioned ODIs in 2002\03, the season before The World Cup.
And there were 10 games, and he missed 4 of them. His selection for WC2003 was never guranteed and it's very obvious looking at the run-up that this was the case.

 

[Richard]

Erm how exactly?

Is this some new mathematical theory you have?

No, it's palpably obvious to anyone who watches limited-overs cricket.
0.6 an over is a huge difference, and it does not equate to exactly 6 runs more exactly every 10 overs (partly because bowlers don't bowl 10 every game).

 

[marc71178]

he mentioned ODIs in 2002\03, the season before The World Cup.
And there were 10 games, and he missed 4 of them.

There were actually 16 in 2002/03 before the World Cup.

 

[marc71178]

0.6 an over is a huge difference, and it does not equate to exactly 6 runs more exactly every 10 overs (partly because bowlers don't bowl 10 every game).

So it equates to a maximum of 6 runs per game.

For a much better wicket rate.

It's a no-brainer.

 

[Marius]

Ngconde Balfour is minister of Correctional Services. Makhenkesi Stofile, former Eastern Cape Premier is now Minister of Sport.

 

[Richard]

There were actually 16 in 2002/03 before the World Cup.

Really? I only counted 10 - 5 each against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

 

[Richard]

So it equates to a maximum of 6 runs per game.

For a much better wicket rate.

It's a no-brainer.

No, it equates to nothing of the sort.

 

[marc71178]

No, it equates to nothing of the sort.

So please tell me how 0.6 an over for a maximum of 10 overs is more than 6?

 

[marc71178]

Really? I only counted 10 - 5 each against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

That'll be 16.