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Non top 10 players draft (1920s and later).

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Hello,

Thinking of setting up a new draft in the coming days - it would start no earlier then Monday evening following the conclusion of the England v Pakistan 2nd Test - all averages/run tallies will be based on the numbers following the conclusion of the 2nd Test.

Rules would be

Only players who debuted in the 1920s or later would be eligible
Each squad has to have 11 players representing at least 7 different Test teams and 7 different debut decades (between the 1920s to present day)
Maximum of 2 from any Test playing side and maximum of 2 from same decade
Each player has to have batted and/or bowled in at least 15 Test innings
Players can not be in their nations top 10 run scorers or top 10 wicket takers
Players can not be in their nation's top 10 highest batting averages or lowest bowling averages (amongst those to have featured in 15+ innings in respective discipline) - this only includes games for their nation so it does not include matches for those who played for Rest of the World XI.

* However, this restriction is eased for players who represented nations who debuted in Test Cricket after 1980 - so that is Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. All players from these 3 nations should not be among their nations top 5 run scorers/takers or amongst their nations top 5 highest batting averages/lowest bowling averages (once again amongst those who have featured in 15+ innings in respective discipline).


For the sake of clarification

To clarify Greg Chappell would be an illegal pick - whilst he is the 12th highest Australian run scorer in Tests so fits that criteria, he has the 11th highest average but 5 of those above him have not batted in 15+ innings hence for this he is seen as having the 6th highest Test average. Australians Jack Ryder and Michael Hussey would also be ineligible for the same reason.

To be eligible as a player you just have to have batted or bowled in 15+ innings but when looking at bowling averages you have to have bowled in 15+ innings, this is to ensure someone like Michael Slater who has bowled in 3 Test innings and has 1 wicket at an average of 10 is not discounted on the basis of his bowling. This rule will be the same when looking at batting averages only it will be batting in 15+ innings - so it is possible in theory to have a player with the 20th highest batting average but if 10 or more above them on that list have batted in 14 or fewer Test innings then that player will be ineligible

Let me know if you are interested in participating looking for 8-12 participants. Also let me know if any further clarification is needed.
 
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ataraxia

International Debutant
Sure, in.

I think it would really help if you posted a list of ineligible players along the lines of the rules you've put up, so that there would be less painstaking checking.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Sure, in.

I think it would really help if you posted a list of ineligible players along the lines of the rules you've put up, so that there would be less painstaking checking.
I will do that within the next 24 hours re the top 10 aspects - and then it will be just those players plus those who have batted/bowled in less then 15 Test Innings
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Have edited initial post to reflect this but Alan Fairfax would be an eligible pick - batted in less then 15 innings so not counted as one of top 10 batting averages but qualifies for draft on basis of his bowling
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Also had forgotten to put this in the initial rules although I was thinking it maximum of 2 from any Test playing side and maximum of 2 from same decade - edited in the rules to reflect this
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Note some of these players would have been ineligible anyway due to having a debut before 1920 - the players below are ineligible along with players who have not either batted or bowled in at least 15 Test innings and/or debuted in Test Cricket before 1 January 1920

Australia

Disqualified on basis of batting


Ricky Ponting

Allan Border

Steve Waugh

Michael Clarke

Matthew Hayden

Mark Waugh

Justin Langer

Mark Taylor

David Boon

David Warner

Don Bradman

Marnus Labuschagne

Sid Barnes

Steve Smith

Adam Voges

Greg Chappell

Jack Ryder

Michael Hussey



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Shane Warne

Glenn McGrath

Nathan Lyon

Dennis Lillee

Mitchell Johnson

Brett Lee

Craig McDermott

Jason Gillespie

Richie Benaud

Graham McKenzie

Charlie Turner

Bert Ironmonger

Frederick Spofforth

Harry Boyle

Alan Davidson

Bill Whitty

Joey Palmer

Hugh Trumble

Ernie Toshack










Bangladesh

Disqualified on basis of batting


Mushfiqur Rahim

Tamim Iqbal

Shakib Al Hasan

Habibul Bashar

Mominul Haque

Nasir Hossain



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Shakib Al Hasan

Taijul Islam

Mohammad Rafique

Mehidy Hasan Miraz

Mashrafe Mortaza

Mustafizur Rahman

Robiul Islam










England

Disqualified on basis of batting


Alastair Cook

Graham Gooch

Alec Stewart

David Gower

Kevin Pietersen

Geoffrey Boycott

Joe Root

Michael Atherton

Ian Bell

Colin Cowdrey

Herbert Sutcliffe

Eddie Paynter

Ken Barrington

Kumar Shri Duleepsinhji

Wally Hammond

Jack Hobbs

Jack Russell (born 1887)

Len Hutton

Ernest Tyldesley

Cyril Walters




Disqualified on basis of bowling

James Anderson

Stuart Broad

Ian Botham

Bob Willis

Fred Trueman

Derek Underwood

Graeme Swann

Brian Statham

Matthew Hoggard

Alec Bedser

George Lohmann

Billy Barnes

Billy Bates

Sydney Barnes

Bobby Peel

Johnny Briggs

Bob Appleyard

Frank Tyson

Colin Blythe

Johnny Wardle










India

Disqualified on basis of batting


Sachin Tendulkar

Rahul Dravid

Sunil Gavaskar

VVS Laxman

Virender Sehwag

Virat Kohli

Sourav Ganguly

Dilip Vengsarkar

Mohammad Azharuddin

Gundappa Viswanath

Mayank Agarwal

Vinod Kambli

Cheteshwar Pujara

Vijay Merchant

Vijay Hazare



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Anil Kumble

Kapil Dev

Harbhajan Singh

Ravichandran Ashwin

Zaheer Khan

Ishant Sharma

Bishan Bedi

Bhagwath Chandrasekhar

Javagal Srinath

Ravindra Jadeja

Jasprit Bumrah

Bhuvneshwar Kumar

Sandeep Patil

Mohammad Shami

Bapu Nadkarni

Shubhash Gupte










New Zealand

Disqualified on basis of batting


Ross Taylor

Stephen Fleming

Kane Williamson

Brendon McCullum

Martin Crowe

John Wright

Nathan Astle

Daniel Vettori

Tom Latham

BJ Watling

Stewie Dempster

John F Reid

Mark Richardson

Glenn Turner

Andrew Jones

Jesse Ryder



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Richard Hadlee

Daniel Vettori

Tim Southee

Trent Boult

Chris Martin

Chris Cairns

Neil Wagner

Danny Morrison

Lance Cairns

Ewen Chatfield

Shane Bond

Bruce Taylor

Dion Nash

Richard Collinge

Simon Doull










Pakistan

Disqualified on basis of batting


Younis Khan

Javed Miandad

Inzamam-Ul-Haq

Mohammad Yousuf

Azhar Ali

Saleem Malik

Misbah-ul-Haq

Zaheer Abbas

Asad Shafiq

Mudassar Nazar

Saeed Anwar

Babar Azam

Shoaib Mohammad

Hanif Mohammad



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Wasim Akram

Waqar Younis

Imran Khan

Danish Kaneria

Abdul Qadir

Yasir Shah

Saqlain Mushtaq

Mushtaq Ahmed

Saeed Ajmal

Shoaib Akhtar

Mohammad Abbas

Haris Sohail

Shabbir Ahmed

Pervez Sajjad

Khan Mohammad

Mohammad Asif

Fazal Mahmood










South Africa

Disqualified on basis of batting


Jacques Kallis

Hashim Amla

Graeme Smith

AB de Villiers

Gary Kirsten

Herschelle Gibbs

Mark Boucher

Daryll Cullinan

Faf du Plessis

Dean Elgar

Graeme Pollock

Dudley Nourse

Alan Melville

Colin Bland

Bruce Mitchell

Eddie Barlow



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Dale Steyn

Shaun Pollock

Makhaya Ntini

Allan Donald

Morne Morkel

Jacques Kallis

Vernon Philander

Kagiso Rabada

Hugh Tayfield

Paul Adams

Duanne Olivier

Tip Snooke

Neil Adcock - https://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/player/43923.html

Kyle Abbott

Bert Vogler










Sri Lanka

Disqualified on basis of batting


Kumar Sangakkara

Mahela Jayawardene

Sanath Jayasuria

Aravinda da Silva

Angelo Mathews

Thilan Samaraweera



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Muttiah Muralitharan

Rangana Herath

Chaminda Vaas

Dilruwan Perera

Suranga Lakmal

Jayananda Warnaweera

Lasith Malinga










West Indies

Disqualified on basis of batting


Brian Lara

Shivnarine Chanderpaul

Viv Richards

Garfield Sobers

Gordon Greenidge

Clive Lloyd

Desmond Haynes

Chris Gayle

Rohan Kanhai

Richie Richardson

George Headley

Everton Weekes

Clyde Walcott

Charlie Davis

Frank Worrell

Seymour Nurse







Disqualified on basis of bowling

Courtney Walsh

Curtly Ambrose

Malcolm Marshall

Lance Gibbs

Joel Garner

Michael Holding

Garfield Sobers

Andy Roberts

Kemar Roach

Wes Hall

Manny Martindale

Colin Croft

Eric Atkinson

Ian Bishop

Wayne Daniel










Zimbabwe

Disqualified on basis of batting


Andy Flower

Grant Flower

Alistair Campbell

Hamilton Masakadza

Guy Whittall

Dave Houghton

Murray Goodwin

Peter Moor

Craig Ervine



Disqualified on basis of bowling

Heath Streak

Ray Price

Paul Strang

Henry Olonga

Graeme Cremer

Tinashe Panyangara

Tendai Chatara

Kyle Jarvis

David Brain
 
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JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Just confirming that is John F Reid (ave 46) who is ineligible for NZ. Is John R Reid available?
Yep John F Reid ineligible, John R Reid is available - just about misses the top ten in terms of run scorers - I will edit previous post to make it clear it is John F Reid that is ineligible.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
So I make that 7 as of now including myself - to confirm current entrants up until time of this post

Ataraxia
HonestBharani
Teuton
Coronis
Fuller Pilch
KingKallis
JOJOXI

As said in opening post won't start before Monday evening - conclusion of England v Pakistan but if we have a couple more participants by then will post draft orders up on Monday evening
 

Teuton

International Regular
It would be good to get a few more, especially since the other 2 drafts are finishing imminently.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Yep planned on holding out for another 24-48 hours, I'll set a provisional start time of 9pm Wednesday UK time that is just under 43 hours from now how does that sound to everyone? Don't want to delay things too much but it would be nice to get a couple more participants and as you have mentioned after drafts are close to finishing
 

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