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Next New Zealand BLACKCAPS Captain?

Flem274*

123/5
Would have thought my Mills fanboyism over the past couple of years has been obvious. In the past few months I have proclaimed him a better ODI batsman than Afridi and given him the title Son of God.

Mills is soooo underrated.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Think you overestimate my tune on Mills.

Also Southee would be the first bowler I put on the team sheet in all forms of the game (besides Dan in the limited overs and arguably Martin in Tests).
Southee has only become a good ODI bowler very recently. Mills has been awesome for a long time.

Mills goes ahead of Southee, though the gap has closed a little.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Mills bowls very well with the new ball in ODI cricket. Is average in Tests and T20 and rubbish at the ODI death.


SECOND NAME ON THE SHEET
 

Flem274*

123/5
Mills bowls very well with the new ball in ODI cricket. Is average in Tests and T20 and rubbish at the ODI death.


SECOND NAME ON THE SHEET
What does 20/20 and tests have to do with ODI teamsheets?

Also I hate you, because you're making me go to statsguru.

Mills since 2006 in ODIs has 120 wickets at 23.35. He averages 22 against Australia in that period from 11 matches (RPO 4.85) and a hilarious 12 against South Africa from 5 matches.

The only team he is poor against is India, whom he averages 44 against.

When compared with Southee, who only started his hot streak in ODIs against his Pakistan, Mills wins out easily because he has been world class for five years.

Mills might be poor at the death, but that doesn't matter if he's bowled out before 40 overs are up. Southee is hardly the epitome of consistency. He's improving very quickly under Allan Donald, but he's not the second name on the team sheet after Vettori yet.

And comparing Oram and Mills is rather wrong imo. I believe you were the one who put it quite eloquently before the world cup either on here or MSN; "Doesn't bowl at the start, doesn't bowl at the death, is decent in the middle overs, but who can't be?":p

Mills is the second name on the ODI team sheet, easily.
 

amyswan

Cricket Spectator
Brendon McCullum is well down the list of NZ matchwinners imo. If we gave the captaincy to our next best player after Vettori, it would have to be Mills.

And Taylor has far more maturity in his game than McCullum also.
haha.. that's funny.. how come a player can get captaincy who don't even have a secure place in playing 11. Mills isn't in the race so it's useless to talk about the captaincy going to Mills.
 

Flem274*

123/5
haha.. that's funny.. how come a player can get captaincy who don't even have a secure place in playing 11. Mills isn't in the race so it's useless to talk about the captaincy going to Mills.
Why doesn't Kyle Mills have a secure place in the playing eleven?

Mills being captain is obviously not going to happen, but it's fun to imagine.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
What does 20/20 and tests have to do with ODI teamsheets?

Also I hate you, because you're making me go to statsguru.

Mills since 2006 in ODIs has 120 wickets at 23.35. He averages 22 against Australia in that period from 11 matches (RPO 4.85) and a hilarious 12 against South Africa from 5 matches.

The only team he is poor against is India, whom he averages 44 against.

When compared with Southee, who only started his hot streak in ODIs against his Pakistan, Mills wins out easily because he has been world class for five years.

Mills might be poor at the death, but that doesn't matter if he's bowled out before 40 overs are up. Southee is hardly the epitome of consistency. He's improving very quickly under Allan Donald, but he's not the second name on the team sheet after Vettori yet.

And comparing Oram and Mills is rather wrong imo. I believe you were the one who put it quite eloquently before the world cup either on here or MSN; "Doesn't bowl at the start, doesn't bowl at the death, is decent in the middle overs, but who can't be?":p

Mills is the second name on the ODI team sheet, easily.

A bowler you need to protect from the last 10 overs isn't really my idea of someone I want as one of the first names on the sheet. After Vettori I'd probably say our next best ODI players are batsman pretty comfortably.

How often does Mills get injured as well?
And how bad is his attitude?

He deserves a spot in the team but I'll hardly trip over myself to lay down the red carpet for him.

James Franklin on the other hand? Phwoar.

First and second name on the sheet.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Mills is fail at the death, but as Pat Symcox likes to remind us, our batsmen are hardly the epitome of excellence, and could benefit from scoring faster than a strike rate of 60 by running some singles.

Taylor and Styris are decent ODI batsmen, Mills is a world class ODI bowler. Mills's attitude doesn't change my mind in the slightest.

For every Mills negative you bring up, I can find a Taylor slog sweep to the man at midwicket.:p
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
A bowler you need to protect from the last 10 overs isn't really my idea of someone I want as one of the first names on the sheet. After Vettori I'd probably say our next best ODI players are batsman pretty comfortably.

How often does Mills get injured as well?
And how bad is his attitude?

He deserves a spot in the team but I'll hardly trip over myself to lay down the red carpet for him.

James Franklin on the other hand? Phwoar.

First and second name on the sheet.
Mills often bowls at the death anyway despite being terrible at it, which just shows how good his record would be if he was used properly.

Second best OD player overall is a stretch, but he's definitely New Zealand's second best OD bowler IMO.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Ross Taylor, surely?

Mildly surprised that there is so much debate about this.
Brendon McCullum must have a few friends in the media because I can't work out for the life of me how his name has popped up again all of a sudden. He was stripped of the VC because he wasn't performing and 18 months later nothing has really changed.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Our favourite soap opera

It has to be our most intriguing soap opera. It’s called New Zealand Cricket.
If you’ve missed some recent episodes, let me bring you up to speed.

Ross badly wants to be captain.

But so does Brendon.

Ross’s friends, Martin, Paddy and Glenn are all super keen that their man gets the job.

Likewise, Brendon’s friends, ex-captains Dan and Stephen plus Jake and Scott have also made their preference known.

Martin got into a real huff last week because things aren’t working out for Ross now like it seemed it would.

Martin threw all the toys out of the cot.

That’s because Dan, who has just handed in his captaincy badge has recently made it obvious that he thinks Brendon would be the best choice.

The big boss man Justin is in a real lather because he has to make the final decision and decisions really freak him out.

That’s why Justin is hoping that the coach, John will make the decision for him.

What’s weird is that silly old Justin doesn’t seem at all worried that delaying the decision just causes more stress and friction amongst the factions and fans.

It just doesn’t seem to have occurred to him that when Ricky stepped down in Australia, the quick decision to make Michael captain put an end to any chance of the situation festering over there like it is here.

There’s more.

A rumour is now circulating that a cop-out decision will probably win the day.

This would see Ross taking over as test captain and Brendon would become the limited overs captain.

You’d have to agree.

This is one doozy of a soap opera
:laugh: This actually sums it up pretty well I thought.
 

Flem274*

123/5
:lol:

Brendon McCullum being captain of the ODI side would be a joke. He's only there because he's the best keeper in the country. With his current batting form I'd seriously consider McGlashan.

Having tats and playing big shots to good deliveries doesn't make you a good aggressive captain, nor is over-aggressiveness a good thing.

Taylor should be captain. If you want overkill aggression, pick Mills.
 

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