Kumar Sangakkara- rank him

[Avada Kedavra]

It was a last minute tour after England didn't want to play Zimbabwe.

Well,considering how few opportunities they get I'd have thought they'd have taken whatever came their way,tbh.You really can't defend a team choosing a fifth rate domestic tourny over a tough away tour TBF.

 

[Furball]

SL playes turned down a tour of England for the IPL....

And quite rightly so.

 

[Lostman]

Well,considering how few opportunities they get I'd have thought they'd have taken whatever came their way,tbh.You really can't defend a team choosing a fifth rate domestic tourny over a tough away tour TBF.

SL players were not getting paid at this time.
The senior players were giving up their pay so that the junior and A team would get paid.
The players had already signed IPL contracts, and I have no problem them wanting to play IPL to make an income over a last minute tour.

 

[akilana]

Sanga is a better batsman,Sehwag is a better match winner.

Sachin is a better batsman, Sehwag is a better match winner. True?

 

[G.I.Joe]

If out of two guys who average around the same, one is a better match winner, doesn't also imply that he's also a bigger match loser? The numbers have to add up.

 

[Pratters]

Sachin is a better batsman, Sehwag is a better match winner. True?

Yorker.

 

[vcs]

If out of two guys who average around the same, one is a better match winner, doesn't also imply that he's also a bigger match loser? The numbers have to add up.

Not necessarily TBH. The match-winner tag has become attached to Sehwag mostly because of his strike rate and the fact that he can turn things around in a matter of minutes, rather than just the fact that he has a habit of piling up huge scores.. I'd guess that both Sehwag and Sangakkara would have similar standard deviations. Also when Sehwag does one of his 150+ knocks, it becomes so easy for the rest of the batting lineup to just bat around him without doing anything spectacular that a 500+ total at 4 RPO is virtually guaranteed.

Sangakkara should receive bonus points over Sehwag for his 2nd innings average though.

 

[Jono]

Sanga's 2nd innings average is simply amazing.

Whilst Sanga failed today, Sehwag did himself no favours with his 2nd innings average either

 

[G.I.Joe]

Not necessarily TBH. The match-winner tag has become attached to Sehwag mostly because of his strike rate and the fact that he can turn things around in a matter of minutes, rather than just the fact that he has a habit of piling up huge scores.. I'd guess that both Sehwag and Sangakkara would have similar standard deviations. Also when Sehwag does one of his 150+ knocks, it becomes so easy for the rest of the batting lineup to just bat around him without doing anything spectacular that a 500+ total at 4 RPO is virtually guaranteed.

Sangakkara should receive bonus points over Sehwag for his 2nd innings average though.

Yeah, thats true. I think its worth thinking about in other cases though. I know there was a period 5 or so years ago when many people considered Dravid a bigger match winner than Tendulkar, and that obviously had nothing to do with strike rate.

 

[vcs]

Yeah, thats true. I think its worth thinking about in other cases though. I know there was a period 5 or so years ago when many people considered Dravid a bigger match winner than Tendulkar, and that obviously had nothing to do with strike rate.

True, when he batted well, we usually won matches because he turned things in our favour in tight situations and tough conditions on quite a few occasions, especially away.. Sehwag's approach is quite different but effective in its own way.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Sachin is a better batsman, Sehwag is a better match winner. True?

For the last 5 years or so...definitely.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

SL players were not getting paid at this time.
The senior players were giving up their pay so that the junior and A team would get paid.
The players had already signed IPL contracts, and I have no problem them wanting to play IPL to make an income over a last minute tour.

Yes but then they can't really complain about not getting enough opportunities.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Not necessarily TBH. The match-winner tag has become attached to Sehwag mostly because of his strike rate and the fact that he can turn things around in a matter of minutes, rather than just the fact that he has a habit of piling up huge scores.. I'd guess that both Sehwag and Sangakkara would have similar standard deviations. Also when Sehwag does one of his 150+ knocks, it becomes so easy for the rest of the batting lineup to just bat around him without doing anything spectacular that a 500+ total at 4 RPO is virtually guaranteed.

Sangakkara should receive bonus points over Sehwag for his 2nd innings average though.

Interesting view.How is failing in the first dig any better than failing in the second one?

 

[Pratters]

First digs decide matches far more often than second digs even though it is tougher to score in the second dig. Importance people place to second inning averages is overrated.

 

[vcs]

Yeah, it might not necessarily win you more matches, but I certainly think it points to a general ability to survive in tougher conditions.

However, there are also exceptions, several pitches and overhead conditions ease out as the match progresses and get easier to bat on, so it's not a definitive thing.

 

[akilana]

For the last 5 years or so...definitely.

Both started their careers in different time and 5 years before Sehwag was almost nobody. I'm talking about overall in their careers, Sachin never got runs as quickly as Sehwag does.. so Sehwag must be better because he gets runs quicker than Sachin?

 

[Pratters]

By that logic Sehwag is the best batsman bar Bradman.

 

[Teja.]

Sehwag has been both the better Batsman and Matchwinner in the last five years, for mine.

However,

Sachin late 90s>Sehwag late 00s.

Sachin Overall>>Sehwag Overall.

IMO obv.

 

[Lostman]

Yes but then they can't really complain about not getting enough opportunities.

This makes no sense.

SL is a top 8 test team and shouldn't have to settle for scrap tours/series thrown their way when Eng and Ind don't have anyone to play with.
This is why a fair a FTP is needed.

 

[Avada Kedavra]

Both started their careers in different time and 5 years before Sehwag was almost nobody. I'm talking about overall in their careers, Sachin never got runs as quickly as Sehwag does.. so Sehwag must be better because he gets runs quicker than Sachin?

Show me where I said that.