Is there a team that can beat this Asian ODI XI?

[TheJediBrah]

Just wanted to add that Kapil is surplus to requirements in an ATXI because of Imran and I'd rather have Shakib to get a 2nd spin option or a better bowler like Ashwin.

Or is Imran surplus to requirements because of Kapil

 

[Burgey]

Who, VVS? Does he? I didn't know that. Can't blame him for choosing the peninsula if he had his choice of anywhere on earth tbh.

 

[trundler]

Or is Imran surplus to requirements because of Kapil

Clearly a no contest because Imran's averages are much better, obviously.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Clearly a no contest because Imran's averages are much better, obviously.

Oh ok. Both played before 2000 anyway so I'd never heard of them

 

[trundler]

Oh ok. Both played before 2000 anyway so I'd never heard of them

Just look at their WPMs bro

 

[TheJediBrah]

Who, VVS? Does he? I didn't know that. Can't blame him for choosing the peninsula if he had his choice of anywhere on earth tbh.

If you didn't know that now I'm thinking I'm probably completely wrong

 

[h_hurricane]

Kapil Dev is not a lock in an ATG asian XI. As a said earlier, there are several permutations of picking a team. And all of them have their fair share of pros and cons. If 10 people pick a team here, it is likely that 6 will pick him. The propensity of some people to ridicule or mock Kapil or the people who pick him in their team is lolworthy though.

For people who saw him, he was easily better than the stats suggested. The only world class bowler in his side, bowled to the ****ing ground on numerous occasions. And yet lasted way longer than any other bowler in that era.

 

[ankitj]

Oh ok. Both played before 2000 anyway so I'd never heard of them

@trundler at 15 knows their stats by year and country. You have no excuse

 

[subshakerz]

Kapil Dev is not a lock in an ATG asian XI. As a said earlier, there are several permutations of picking a team. And all of them have their fair share of pros and cons. If 10 people pick a team here, it is likely that 6 will pick him. The propensity of some people to ridicule or mock Kapil or the people who pick him in their team is lolworthy though.

For people who saw him, he was easily better than the stats suggested. The only world class bowler in his side, bowled to the ****ing ground on numerous occasions. And yet lasted way longer than any other bowler in that era.

Nobody is mocking him. It is just that against an all-time XI you need the best pure quality bowling options as possible, and there is no harm in having someone like Shoaib or Ashwin/Kumble ahead of him at 7/8.

 

[trundler]

I'd say an Asian side should have 2 spinners. 4 pacers is generally overkill.

 

[trundler]

For an Asian XI I'd have Sehwag home and Anwar away. Similarly I'd take Sanga at home and Dravid away. Ashwin over Kapil at home and Shakib/Kapil away.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

And yet lasted way longer than any other bowler in that era.

Not true.

Kapil: test career 1978-94 (16 years)
Botham: test career 1977-92 (15 years)
Hadlee: test career 1973-90 (17 years)
Imran: test career 1971-92 (21 years!)

Plus
Procter: 1st class career 1965-89 (24 years!!)
Rice: 1st class career 1970-94 (24 years!!)

 

[h_hurricane]

A couple of other names who deserved 1-2 mentions are Hanif Mohammad and Mohinder Amarnath. Sure, they are not all that impressive statistically, but given the eras they played and the way they stood up, need some acknowledgement.

 

[h_hurricane]

Not true.

Kapil: test career 1978-94 (16 years)
Botham: test career 1977-92 (15 years)
Hadlee: test career 1973-90 (17 years)
Imran: test career 1971-92 (21 years!)

Plus
Procter: 1st class career 1965-89 (24 years!!)
Rice: 1st class career 1970-94 (24 years!!)

Oh, I meant the number of tests he played. Though my bad that it wasn't clear.

 

[honestbharani]

Haha new excuses.

 

[honestbharani]

Just wanted to add that Kapil is surplus to requirements in an ATXI because of Imran and I'd rather have Shakib to get a 2nd spin option or a better bowler like Ashwin.

Maybe, but not at #7.

 

[honestbharani]

Clearly a no contest because Imran's averages are much better, obviously.

If only the person arguing it did not believe that players deserve an arbitrary average that has nothing to do with their real ones and is based on the eye test.

 

[honestbharani]

@trundler at 15 knows their stats by year and country. He has no life.

?

 

[honestbharani]

Nobody is mocking him. It is just that against an all-time XI you need the best pure quality bowling options as possible, and there is no harm in having someone like Shoaib or Ashwin/Kumble ahead of him at 7/8.

Honestly, I would drop Waqar for the second spinner before I drop Kapil.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Clearly a no contest because Imran's averages are much better, obviously.

I have an idea.
Bumrah and Asif replaces Imran and Waquar outside SC.