Is there a team that can beat this Asian ODI XI?

[Burgey]

There again, you get Anwar and Afridi mentioned I think for the first time 40 odd posts in. Both terrific players.

Some deadset great names which can be tossed about here.

Some really prolific guys not rating a mention. Mark Waugh another who had a great ODI career but will struggle to make the non-SC side here.

 

[subshakerz]

The thing about ODI ratings, ATG discussions and AT XI selections is the fact that more than any other format of the game, this one requires such immense contextualization given how different the rules and conditions have been across different eras. I myself have seen 4 now and there must have at least 2 more before 1990 or so.

My Asian ODI XI would be -

Sachin
Saeed Anwar
Virat
Zaheer / Miandad
Shakib
MSD (c)
Afridi / Razzaq
Kapil
Wasim
Waqar
Murali


Afridi is my wildcard pick here (I like Burgey's suggestion of Razzaq too) because I think he just adds more to the side. Maybe Razzaq in SENA conditions and Afridi elsewhere. I think the other 10 are good enough to warrant a wildcard pick and if it were to be a hypothetical team, I think the balance is far better this way. Also, Saeed Anwar is bloody underrated. It was a close call but once I knew Shakib was the #5, I didn't think we will need the SLA option of Sanath and I feel Saeed is more likely to perform across all conditions.


The RoW XI -

Watson
Lara
Viv
Ponting
AB (wk) / Buttler (wk)
Bevan
Hussey
Warne
Starc
Bond
Garner


Bevan and Viv being the 2nd and 3rd spinners is not promising but otherwise its as well rounded a side as I could pick. The variations and variety of the bowling attacks of both sides is a mouth watering prospect.

I forgot about Anwar. He was class. I think once you have Shakib and Murali you might as well pick another bat or pacer.

Surprised you dropped Gilchrist.

 

[honestbharani]

I forgot about Anwar. He was class. I think once you have Shakib and Murali you might as well pick another bat or pacer.

Surprised you dropped Gilchrist.

I think it is common knowledge by now on CW that I think his ODI prowess is rather overrated. Also, with ODIs going the way they have, you have so many more options at the top of the order than the middle and lower middle orders.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Gilchrist would be one of the first picked for me, but ABdV and Buttler are both great replacements so can't really say that it weakens the team by that much

 

[anil1405]

Sachin Tendulkar
Sanath Jayasuriya
Zaheer Abbas
Virat Kohli
Aravinda de Silva
MS Dhoni
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Lasith Malinga
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan

2nd Asia XI

Rohit Sharma
Saeed Anwar
Kumar Sangakkara
Javed Miandad
Yuvraj Singh
Shakib Al Hasan
Imran Khan
Abdul Razzaq
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhtar
Jasprit Bumrah

 

[Daemon]

How soon before this thread goes the Bevan v Dhoni etc way

 

[subshakerz]

Not quite sure I understand the DeSilva love here. A good ODI player but these are several better selections than him for the middle order. I think his 96 heroics colors opinions of him too much.

 

[subshakerz]

Some really prolific guys not rating a mention. Mark Waugh another who had a great ODI career but will struggle to make the non-SC side here.

Waugh is behind Hayden who is behind Watson for his AR status.

 

[honestbharani]

Waugh is a bit of an AR in ODIs too though. Its not as far as off as you may think although I essentially agree with your ranking order.

 

[Burgey]

I dunno, I find watson over rated in LOs here tbh (the allrounder not the White Flight poster on here, who no one rates). But can see why people rate him highly

 

[subshakerz]

I dunno, I find watson over rated in LOs here tbh (the allrounder not the White Flight poster on here, who no one rates). But can see why people rate him highly

I am surprised by his numbers because when he was playing I never rated him that highly.

 

[Burgey]

I am surprised by his numbers because when he was playing I never rated him that highly.

Yeah same tbh. I mean he was such a maligned player here that I’m not upset if he’s now regarded more highly cos he copped a lot of **** when he was playing and was often a scapegoat. Had a very good run as a test opener too tbf when he stepped into that. At a time when our batting was dire too

 

[TheJediBrah]

Watson was basically Hayden with the bat (and rig) + a genuine bowling threat.

Gets marked down for being immensely beta. Probably cried on a daily basis

 

[OverratedSanity]

Not quite sure I understand the DeSilva love here. A good ODI player but these are several better selections than him for the middle order. I think his 96 heroics colors opinions of him too much.

WCs should count for a lot. But even apart from that, he was one of the early batsmen who started batting very fast in ODIs. SR of 81 in the era he played in is extremely impressive.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Rohit Sharma
Saeed Anwar
Kumar Sangakkara
Javed Miandad
Yuvraj Singh
Shakib Al Hasan
Imran Khan
Abdul Razzaq
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhtar
Jasprit Bumrah

You don't need this much bowling. Inzi should definitely make one of the two XIs imo.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah Inzi in the running for sure. His 92 WC as a pup was legendary

 

[Bitmap]

Asian XI

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Zaheer Abbas
Virat Kohli
Shakib Al Hasan
MS Dhoni +(C)
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq/Shoaib Akhtar
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan

RoW XI

Adam Gilchrist+
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting (C)
Vivian Richards
AB de Villiers
Michael Bevan
Lance Klusener
Mitchell Starc
Shane Warne
Joel Garner
Glenn McGrath

 

[subshakerz]

Asian XI

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Zaheer Abbas
Virat Kohli
Shakib Al Hasan
MS Dhoni +(C)
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq/Shoaib Akhtar
Waqar Younis
Muttiah Muralitharan

RoW XI

Adam Gilchrist+
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting (C)
Vivian Richards
AB de Villiers
Michael Bevan
Lance Klusener
Mitchell Starc
Shane Warne
Joel Garner
Glenn McGrath

I agree most with your selections.

 

[CricAddict]

M Waugh /Watson
Gilchrist
Viv Richards
Ponting
Buttler
Clive Lloyd
Symonds
Klusenar
Hadlee
Warne
Mcgrath

Lloyd was a great ODI player and captain. Deserves a mention here.

Going Waugh or Watson over Lara and Haynes mainly due to need for the 6th bowler.

 

[subshakerz]

M Waugh /Watson
Gilchrist
Viv Richards
Ponting
Buttler
Clive Lloyd
Symonds
Klusenar
Hadlee
Warne
Mcgrath

Lloyd was a great ODI player and captain. Deserves a mention here.

Going Waugh or Watson over Lara and Haynes mainly due to need for the 6th bowler.

Bowling a bit weak.

Ideally you need four worldclass bowlers plus 1/2 allrounders.

Which I why for me I preferred the Wasim/Waqar/Imran/Kapil/Murali combos. All class bowlers plus a deep tail.