TheJediBrah
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Who would have picked that the best ever Ashes innings would be played by a New Zealander
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Is Ben Stokes the best cricketer ever in the whole world?
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Two extremely impressive centuries, still is he a better cricketer than Steve Smith? Doesn't really matter both excellent players who have done exceptionally well this series.
GIMH
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Smith has taken no wickets this series so Stokes wins
Athlai
Not Terrible
He'd have probably tried to get into the Test team by reinventing himself as a gritty opener
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His personality comes out so clearly in the way he plays. Like Warne or Viv or KP.
I’ve felt for a long time that England (and to a lesser extent Australia) lacked fight in Ashes games. In the past ten years whoever went ahead in the game first won easily basically every time. And you could always see exactly when it happened, they would start phoning it in in the field at the first partnership after conceding a first innings lead. We saw it start to happen again on Friday evening. You could tell Stokes saw it too. I think that’s why he bowled 15 overs straight- he didn’t trust anyone else to keep putting the effort in.
The thing about mental strength in cricket is that it’s hard to talk about without sounding like you’re being very harsh and personal about some players. But who can stay motivated and concentrate for all of a game that lasts 5 days? I definitely couldn’t. It’s actually really rare. In other sports it’s the ones who aren’t too bothered that stand out, but in cricket it’s the opposite. You stand out if you throw everything into every game. That’s what’s so thrilling about watching Stokes. He scores a 2* from 60 and even Burgey is in the tour thread afterwards saying FMD that’s a hell of a player.
I’ve felt for a long time that England (and to a lesser extent Australia) lacked fight in Ashes games. In the past ten years whoever went ahead in the game first won easily basically every time. And you could always see exactly when it happened, they would start phoning it in in the field at the first partnership after conceding a first innings lead. We saw it start to happen again on Friday evening. You could tell Stokes saw it too. I think that’s why he bowled 15 overs straight- he didn’t trust anyone else to keep putting the effort in.
The thing about mental strength in cricket is that it’s hard to talk about without sounding like you’re being very harsh and personal about some players. But who can stay motivated and concentrate for all of a game that lasts 5 days? I definitely couldn’t. It’s actually really rare. In other sports it’s the ones who aren’t too bothered that stand out, but in cricket it’s the opposite. You stand out if you throw everything into every game. That’s what’s so thrilling about watching Stokes. He scores a 2* from 60 and even Burgey is in the tour thread afterwards saying FMD that’s a hell of a player.
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TheJediBrah
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Have to say that I love all the attention you've been giving me lately. Really makes a lad feel special.
NZTailender
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I look forward to England ruining him by giving him the captaincy in a years time.
Test_Fan_Only
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Some players thrive with the captaincy, perhaps Stokes will be one of them. Even so Root will probably still be captain in a few years.
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Perhaps
Kirkut
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I see a lot of Yuvraj Singh like warrior spirit in Stokes, with Stokes being a better test player.
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You missed out Mitch Marsh
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Late 90s/early 2000s was better. The South African allrounders Kallis, Klusenar, Mcmillan and Pollock, Flintoff and Gilchrist. Akram, Vaas, Cairns, Hooper, Razzaq etc. were decent as well.
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It is just the euphoria of this innings speaking. Shakib is still number one for me ahead of Stokes. But it is daylight after these two. Sir Jaddu, Holder and Lord Colin come a distant third.
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Yeah let's be honest it's really just Stokes and Shakib that are smashing it as all-rounders right now. The rest make up the tier or 2 below where there is always a half dozen or more around world cricket.
CDG is a weird one to throw in there too, hard to imagine he'd even make most international teams
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