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Imran vs Wasim

Wasim vs Imran

  • Imran Khan

  • Wasim Akram


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Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
What have you been smoking?
Why are you so biased?

Akram is among elite ATG cricketers by general consensus.

Unusually long career for a pacer

Lack of fielding support

Controversies / captaincy pressure

Bowled a lot from the junk end

Recognized as world's best bowler for most of the 90s.

Played mostly in unhelpful conditions.

Best top order wicket avg ( less than 18)
among all the bowlers listed above ( except Trueman )

Up there with Lillee in terms of peer rating.

High % of clean bowled and LBW wickets.

One of the most popular AT 11 candidate

And no other bowler in the history would be recognized as an underachiever after taking 400+ wickets at less than 25.
 

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
Don’t bother to waste your time mate.
Akram's actual wicket tally is 1000+ including drops. He has to take every wicket thrice to actually dismiss the batsman, check YouTube videos for proof.
With that kind of fielding Mcgrath would have averaged 25+.
👀
 

_00_deathscar

International 12th Man
Why are you so biased?

Akram is among elite ATG cricketers by general consensus.

Unusually long career for a pacer

Lack of fielding support

Controversies / captaincy pressure

Bowled a lot from the junk end

Recognized as world's best bowler for most of the 90s.

Played mostly in unhelpful conditions.

Best top order wicket avg ( less than 18)
among all the bowlers listed above ( except Trueman )

Up there with Lillee in terms of peer rating.

High % of clean bowled and LBW wickets.

One of the most popular AT 11 candidate

And no other bowler in the history would be recognized as an underachiever after taking 400+ wickets at less than 25.
Ok.
 

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
I'm not biased. I rate Akram in the top dozen or so bowlers. This is bias ... ranking him higher than any other ATG.

1. AKRAM
2. Marshall / Hadlee
3. Hadlee / Marshall
4. Lillee / STEYN
5. STEYN / Lillee
6.Mcgrath
7.Murali
8.Trueman
9. Warne
10. Donald
11. Ambrose
12. IMRAN
1. Barnes
2. Akram

Happy?
 

Gob

International Captain
Akram's actual wicket tally is 1000+ including drops. He has to take every wicket thrice to actually dismiss the batsman, check YouTube videos for proof.
With that kind of fielding Mcgrath would have averaged 25+.
👀
Well he was inducing those edges by swinging the ball and swing was achieved mainly through ball tampering. So none of those arguments are valid
 

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
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You’re not making anyone happy. But that’s not your goal right?
I wont complain, if anyone rates Lillee, Steyn, Mcgrath or Hadlee as GOAT bowler.. Its their opinion and i can see the logic behind it.
Same applies with Akram, I dont care if anyone disagrees with Akram being arguable GOAT... Its like saying Viv is not arguable GOAT ( bar Bradman).
Akram is rated by many as the best they played with or against.. That includes Steyn, Mcgrath, Ambrose, Donald, Waquar.. Etc.. If he is better than Steyn and Mcgrath and nowhere near the GOAT tag.. Its not just against Akram.. Its insulting Steyn and Mcgrath too.
 

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
Well he was inducing those edges by swinging the ball and swing was achieved mainly through ball tampering. So none of those arguments are valid
Ball tampering makes all the arguments invalid..

So you believe, Mcgrath needs ball tampering to keep his avg under 25 in such situations.
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Let's Try. You can add later.
ENG = 3 openers, Hammond
AUS = Bradman, Smith , Ponting, Steve Waugh , Chappell
WI = Sober, Lara, Viv Richard's
IND = Gavaskar, Sachin
SL = Sangakkara
SA = Kallis

Add more if I missed someone.
ENG - Add Barrington, Root
WI - Add Headly
SA - AB
ZIM - Andy Flower
NZ - Williamson
 

Migara

Cricketer Of The Year
Let's try for Wasim

AUS = McGrath, Lillee, Warne
ENG = Barnes
SA = Steyn , Donald ( Maybe)
WI = Amrose, Marshall
NZ = Hadlee
SL = Murali
Pak = Imran
AUS - Lindwall
WI - Garner, Holding, Roberts
Pak - Waqar
 

Gob

International Captain
If that is the case, why no left hand batsman getting into an AT 11 on the basis of left hand variety? Or why Allan Davidson wasn't a popular choice for AT 11s before the emergence of Akram?
Sobers is given and most AT xis eventually get another left hander plus Gilchrist at 7 so you don't have to look specifically
 

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