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Geoffrey Boycott vs Younis Khan

Who was the better test batsman?


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a massive zebra

International Captain
Does it finally prove how overrated Bradman is?
Bradman probably played in a very low proportion of matches with low averages as his own performances bumped the overall averages up quite significantly. His average in low scoring matches was probably low, on the basis that one of the main reasons they were low scoring was his own relative failure.
 

peterhrt

U19 Debutant
Bradman probably played in a very low proportion of matches with low averages as his own performances bumped the overall averages up quite significantly. His average in low scoring matches was probably low, on the basis that one of the main reasons they were low scoring was his own relative failure.
Bradman average v England in Tests with RpW < 30.18: 37.25 (17 innings)
Bradman average v England in Tests with RpW < 35: 60.32

Bradman average v All Opponents in Tests with RpW < 30.18: 63.00
Bradman average v All Opponents in Tests with RpW < 35: 77.53

Bradman in Tests on sticky/rain-affected pitches: 57 runs, average 9.50

Fingleton (admittedly with something of an agenda) claimed that for each of the few times in first-class cricket Bradman succeeded on a bad pitch he could name half a dozen when he failed. "His whole demeanour changed on a sticky pitch."

Hobbs said: "He is the best batsman in the world on dry wickets, and probably on all wickets if given the opportunity to get used to wet ones."

Biographer Irving Rosenwater: "Trumper on wet wickets in England was superlatively good. Bradman, though he had the same quick-footedness, was less commanding - perhaps because he had had less practice."
 
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Patience and Accuracy+Gut

First Class Debutant
Bradman average v England in Tests with RpW < 30.18: 37.25 (17 innings)
Bradman average v England in Tests with RpW < 35: 60.32

Bradman average v All Opponents in Tests with RpW < 30.18: 63.00
Bradman average v All Opponents in Tests with RpW < 35: 77.53

Bradman in Tests on sticky/rain-affected pitches: 57 runs, average 9.50

Fingleton (admittedly with something of an agenda) claimed that for each of the few times in first-class cricket Bradman succeeded on a bad pitch he could name half a dozen when he failed. "His whole demeanour changed on a sticky pitch."

Hobbs said: "He is the best batsman in the world on dry wickets, and probably on all wickets if given the opportunity to get used to wet ones."

Biographer Irving Rosenwater: "Trumper on wet wickets in England was superlatively good. Bradman, though he had the same quick-footedness, was less commanding - perhaps because he had had less practice."
How do you get 57@9.5 stat?
IIRC Bradman scored 40 odd against West Indies in Sticky Wicket and 35 odd against England when Verity took all the Wickets.
 

peterhrt

U19 Debutant
How do you get 57@9.5 stat?
IIRC Bradman scored 40 odd against West Indies in Sticky Wicket and 35 odd against England when Verity took all the Wickets.
1 v England, Brisbane 1928 (2nd innings)
43 and 0 v WI, Sydney 1931
13 v England, Lord's 1934 (2nd innings)
0 v England, Brisbane 1936 (2nd innings)
0 v England, Sydney 1936 (1st innings)

As you say he scored 36 in the first innings of Verity's match, but it was on a good pitch before the rain on the Sunday rest day. Bill Brown got a hundred.
 

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
How about his 270? His first 56, at least was scored between rain showers in the afternoon, before 192 on the next day, where there was no rain. Is that just not counted?
 

peterhrt

U19 Debutant
How about his 270? His first 56, at least was scored between rain showers in the afternoon, before 192 on the next day, where there was no rain. Is that just not counted?
Match report of Day 3 from the Barker/Rosenwater history:

3 for 1 overnight, Australia lost Fleetwood-Smith to the third ball next morning, but Ward and Rigg defended stubbornly while the wicket improved, and when Ward was out after an hour Brown did the same. After lunch Brown pulled a long hop to square leg, and a 5th wicket fell at 97 when Rigg was lbw to Sims, but at this point, with the wicket fully recovered, Bradman joined Fingleton. Wary at the start, Bradman began to hit fiercely as more rain fell and the ball became greasy, but as the weather cleared he and Fingleton settled in, and by the close they had doubled the score.
 

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