Geoffrey Boycott vs Younis Khan

[a massive zebra]

How about his 270? His first 56, at least was scored between rain showers in the afternoon, before 192 on the next day, where there was no rain. Is that just not counted?

He also missed the first innings of the first Test at Nottingham in 1930.

The Wisden review of this match says:

Australia, on the second afternoon, having to bat on a pitch made difficult by hot sunshine following heavy rain during the night and early morning... By the time the Australians went in, the sun had come out and in less than an hour they lost Ponsford, Woodfull and Bradman for only 16 runs.

 

[peterhrt]

He also missed the first innings of the first Test at Nottingham in 1930.

The Wisden review of this match says:

Australia, on the second afternoon, having to bat on a pitch made difficult by hot sunshine following heavy rain during the night and early morning... By the time the Australians went in, the sun had come out and in less than an hour they lost Ponsford, Woodfull and Bradman for only 16 runs.

That looks like another genuine bad-wicket innings. Bradman scored 8.

 

[Coronis]

Match report of Day 3 from the Barker/Rosenwater history:

3 for 1 overnight, Australia lost Fleetwood-Smith to the third ball next morning, but Ward and Rigg defended stubbornly while the wicket improved, and when Ward was out after an hour Brown did the same. After lunch Brown pulled a long hop to square leg, and a 5th wicket fell at 97 when Rigg was lbw to Sims, but at this point, with the wicket fully recovered, Bradman joined Fingleton. Wary at the start, Bradman began to hit fiercely as more rain fell and the ball became greasy, but as the weather cleared he and Fingleton settled in, and by the close they had doubled the score.

That afternoon, inbetween rain showers, Bradman made 56. The next morning, with the pitch dry and the sun out, and with what Cardus called “inhuman precision”, Bradman set about batting England out of the game. Fifty became 100, became 150, became 200. By the close he had 248. He and Fingleton put on 346 together, a record stand for the sixth-wicket in Australian cricket.

 

[Coronis]

But yeah iirc Bradman was regarded as merely “ok” on stickies, compared to others e.g Trumper, Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond. Of course, on a good wicket (which might still be regarded as **** by today’s standards lol) he was ridiculously above everyone else.

 

[peterhrt]

Bradman once said that his favourite type of pitch was an English one after a little rain. The surface was still true and the ball came onto the bat nicely. There were several of these in 1930.

Few batsmen actually enjoyed batting on rain-damaged drying pitches, especially Australian stickies where there was a real risk of injury. Trumper was an exception and used to book a net at his local ground then ask the groundsman to soak it with water. As it dried he would practise for hours. His teammates thought he was mad.

 

[Himannv]

Will make one big post about it all when I’ve covered a big sample. Anyone in particular you’re interested in the figures of today?

Border and Barrington.

EDIT: Ah, I see you've already done Border. Just Barrington then.

 

[BazBall21]

Border and Barrington.

EDIT: Ah, I see you've already done Border. Just Barrington then.

Barrington

Below average RPW Tests
2110 runs @ 42.20

Sub-35 RPW Tests
3497 @ 46.63

 

[a massive zebra]

What about Jack Hobbs? I suspect his stats will be really good as the first half of his career was a low scoring era and yet he still maintained an average of around 57. He was also arguably the best ever wet wicket batsman, with some amazing innings in very challenging conditions.

 

[BazBall21]

What about Jack Hobbs? I suspect his stats will be really good as the first half of his career was a low scoring era and yet he still maintained an average of around 57. He was also arguably the best ever wet wicket batsman, with some amazing innings in very challenging conditions.

3211 @ 53.52 in sub-35 Tests for Hobbs. 2321 @ 50.02 in the below average RPW tests.

 

[a massive zebra]

Thanks and yes - I think that must be one of the best?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Barrington

Below average RPW Tests
2110 runs @ 42.20

Sub-35 RPW Tests
3497 @ 46.63

What about Dravid and Kallis?

 

[BazBall21]

Dravid 34.87
Kallis 34.83

Overseas
Dravid 34.79
Kallis 27.13

 

[BazBall21]

Excluding Ban/Zim, Younis averaged 32 overseas and 31 overall in these test matches. If you choose not to exclude them, he averages 34.1.
Dravid loses a run overall if you remove Ban/2000s Zim for him too. In the sub-35 RPW overseas tests, Dravid's away average rises to 36. Haven't checked Kallis there. Can do today.

 

[BazBall21]

Kallis averaged 36.65 overseas in tests with a sub-35 RPW. Big improvement on his away average of 27 in away tests with below-average RPW.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Will make one big post about it all when I’ve covered a big sample. Anyone in particular you’re interested in the figures of today?

Gavaskar and Richards

 

[BazBall21]

Gavaskar and Richards

Sunil Gavaskar 36.24
Viv Richards 39.34

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Sunil Gavaskar 36.24
Viv Richards 39.34

How is this compared to other greats? Below average or above average or great?

 

[BazBall21]

How is this compared to other greats? Below average or above average or great?

S Waugh 43.57
Root 43.06
De Villiers 43.06
Greenidge 41.56
Ponting 39.39
Tendulkar 39.35
Amla 38.71
Border 38.61
Lara 37.85
Gower 37.75
Sobers 36.96
Miandad 36.60
Crowe 36.41
Boycott 36.04
G Chappell 35.32
Dravid 34.87
Kallis 34.83
Sehwag 34.12
Kohli 34.09
Pietersen 33.85
S Smith 32.87
Laxman 32.10
Williamson 31.83
Clarke 31.83

 

[BazBall21]

And some of those guys overseas...

Border 43.22
Waugh 42.40
Ponting 39.71
Gower 37.91
Amla 37.84
Crowe 37.16
Gavaskar 37.05
S Smith 36.73
Root 36.45
Dravid 34.79
Boycott 33.59
Kohli 33.14
Clarke 32.86
Sehwag 32.16
Lara 31.76
G Smith 31.39
Williamson 28.95
Kallis 27.13
Pietersen 26.45

 

[Coronis]

S Waugh 43.57
Root 43.06
De Villiers 43.06
Greenidge 41.56
Ponting 39.39
Tendulkar 39.35
Amla 38.71
Border 38.61
Lara 37.85
Gower 37.75
Sobers 36.96
Miandad 36.60
Crowe 36.41
Boycott 36.04
G Chappell 35.32
Dravid 34.87
Kallis 34.83
Sehwag 34.12
Kohli 34.09
Pietersen 33.85
S Smith 32.87
Laxman 32.10
Williamson 31.83
Clarke 31.83

Since you’ve only listed batsmen from Sobers onward - may I ask out of curiousity about batsmen prior to this? Also, how about Sanga or Flower?