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TheJediBrah

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VI's thing actually does need a form of manual control to tell the software when the bowler is running in vs when a fielder is just walking through the crease.

The side on camera watching bowlers is often blocked by fielders and non striking batsmen.

It's close tho, that's basically how I envisioned cameras on umpire hats would work
technology which doesn't exist I'm guessing
 

jimmy101

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How do you know TBT isn't well remunerated for their tireless efforts?
Think one of them escaped a few months back and went to the authorities. Hopefully you don't get a knock on your door sometime in the next few days.
 

Burgey

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I have had zero staff turnover among TBT, because they are all handsomely paid and enjoy their vastly rewarding jobs.
 

Victor Ian

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VI's thing actually does need a form of manual control to tell the software when the bowler is running in vs when a fielder is just walking through the crease.

The side on camera watching bowlers is often blocked by fielders and non striking batsmen.

It's close tho, that's basically how I envisioned cameras on umpire hats would work
Once again you can determine when the bowler is running in by shape recognition. When you have the shape of a batsman at the other end in vaguely batsman's stance, the system is live.
In actual fact - the system can be on all the time. Someone walking over the line without releasing a ball will not trigger a beep. You need a ball leaving the hand and a foot running in a certain direction to trigger the system. Fielders running/walking from mid field are coming from the wrong direction.
There are plenty of visual cues that can tell the system when a ball is about to be bowled or is being fielded. At worst - the umpires has a thought recognition chip implanted at the neo cortex part of the brain to determine if the brain is giving off thought signals indicating the bowler is running in - or failing that - a simple on/off button - pressed by the third umpire. But I think the system can be 'always on' without beeping wrongly.

If I am not mistaken, they have a camera on both sides of the field to adjudicate runouts, for the very problem you describe. It is very unlikely for the bowler's hand and ball to be obstructed (being at some 5 or 6 feet high) rather than the crease on the ground, which is the problem runouts face. In the few cases it misses, consider it a rare case when the umpire misses it. It will be more reliable. That is what matters. No system is 100% - they are just more %.
 

cnerd123

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Video shape recognition tech is far from affordable and accurate enough to be implemented in International cricket.

But that's probably the solution that will exist down the line - will have application in real time analysis of suspect bowling actions too.
 

TheJediBrah

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Video shape recognition tech is far from affordable and accurate enough to be implemented in International cricket.

But that's probably the solution that will exist down the line - will have application in real time analysis of suspect bowling actions too.
How? Does it come with it's own protractor?
 

straw man

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Video shape recognition tech is far from affordable and accurate enough to be implemented in International cricket.
Two minutes of googling says it's already available from free libraries e.g. TensorFlow Object Detection.



 
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Burgey

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***** getting simultaneously owned and boned here. It's like the food thread all over again.
 

cnerd123

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There's a gap between demonstration of a tech and actual commercial applications. For example, Facial Recognition Technology was demonstrable back in the 1980s but it's only recently has it become viable enough to use on things like phone apps and building locks. Voice recognition had a massive gap between first being feasible to actually being useable. And both these techs still aren't flawless.

But hey, maybe they have solved the kinks already and we'll see this tech being used everywhere next year itself. I'm not an expert in this field. I just follow industry trends, and traditionally new tech is brought in by TV broadcasters before being adopted as part of the sport. I trust the powers in charge are well aware of the problems, have investigated the tech, and will bring it in once viable.
 

cnerd123

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I mean the fact that a bunch of bored cricket posters have been able to come up with a semi viable solution just proves my point that if this was doable it would already be done tbh. There are, guaranteed, a ton of smarter people out there with more knowledge and more information who have spent more time than us towards trying to solve this. Guaranteed. Heck there are people out there who get paid to do this **** for a living, and yet there is no solution anywhere to be seen.

The day the tech makes this possible, I guarantee you we'll see someone, somewhere, put it into place.
 

Starfighter

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I mean the fact that a bunch of bored cricket posters have been able to come up with a semi viable solution just proves my point that if this was doable it would already be done tbh. There are, guaranteed, a ton of smarter people out there with more knowledge and more information who have spent more time than us towards trying to solve this. Guaranteed. Heck there are people out there who get paid to do this **** for a living, and yet there is no solution anywhere to be seen.

The day the tech makes this possible, I guarantee you we'll see someone, somewhere, put it into place.
smh
 

Victor Ian

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Video shape recognition tech is far from affordable and accurate enough to be implemented in International cricket.

But that's probably the solution that will exist down the line - will have application in real time analysis of suspect bowling actions too.
Bullshit. I use it to analyse book margins for autocropping and at other times I use it to to mask out areas based on colour. It happens as soon as i click 'doit'. On a video feed this is just 'doit' rinse and repeat. This cost me nothing, I just grabbed freeware scripts in php and tailored them to what i wanted and that was about 5 years ago. This tech must have come along in leaps and bounds since then. PHP isnt even made for imagine - that was just some basic stuff. Imagine what proper imaging tools could do.

It is affordable. Most image processing software has this inbuilt. The algorithms are readily accessible among the computer dudes.

The only expense here is the program that analyses these images and tailors them to cricket pictures.

It seems you are being purposely difficult in order to save your umpiring career from being replaced by bots.
 

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