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Free-hits in Tests?

Should there be a free-hit rule for no-balls in Tests?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • No

    Votes: 31 77.5%
  • Michael Slater is a goose

    Votes: 8 20.0%

  • Total voters
    40

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
People such as Jamee999 are looking for solutions, what is the problem?
Exactly. What is the problem? There is nothing that needs fixing, hence no solution is needed.

There is no need for a batting team to be particularly rewarded for a small mistake that carries no impact on the game.
 

Chemosit

First Class Debutant
Exactly. What is the problem? There is nothing that needs fixing, hence no solution is needed.

There is no need for a batting team to be particularly rewarded for a small mistake that carries no impact on the game.
beat me to it.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Found it ironic that a no ball Johnson bolwed in the 2nd innings allowed him one more ball in the over to dismiss Kumble.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Always find it ironic whenever that happens, and it's alarming how many times it has in my watching time.

Mind, it happens nowhere near so often as an extra delivery conceding runs does.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Always find it ironic whenever that happens, and it's alarming how many times it has in my watching time.

Mind, it happens nowhere near so often as an extra delivery conceding runs does.
Well that's pretty obvious considering runs are more common than wickets. I only made the point given a no ball restricted Johnson from getting a wicket in the first innings.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
There was a letter in TWC after a T20 game (possibly Notts-Leicester :unsure:) bemoaning that a wide had given the bowler an extra delivery with which they had gotten out a tailender when there was a recognised batsman at t'other end...it suggested the batting side should choose whether they face the extra delivery
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch :)
 
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BoyBrumby

Englishman
I don't consider no-balls to be a particularly huge issue, but I do think that if they carried a penalty of 4 runs & an extra ball they'd disappear from the game pretty pronto.

It just depends whether you consider the cure worse than the disease.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch :)
Maybe a wide a batsman doesn't have to deal with, but a no ball they can score off.. It's not exactly forgotten.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Maybe we could break the leg of any bowler who oversteps. That would stamp it pretty quickly as well.

Or we could say that the fact that the delivery is illegal and cannot take a wicket is punishment enough - as was evidenced three times during the Melbourne Aus-Ind test. What are you going to do to Zaheer Khan that is going to give him more pause for thought and incentive to work on the problem than denying him those couple of wickets?
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
How to punish bowlers for noballs has long been an issue.

In 1911 an ammedment to Law 16 was proposed at a MCC meeting where on the call of 'no ball' the ball would be pronounced dead.

No scoring would be allowed and no runouts possible and the batting team would be awarded 2 runs.

This was heavily opposed by many cricketers lead by B. Bosanquet.

Such was the dislike to changing the traditional rule that the proposals were withdarwn before a decision could be taken.
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Maybe we could break the leg of any bowler who oversteps. That would stamp it pretty quickly as well.

Or we could say that the fact that the delivery is illegal and cannot take a wicket is punishment enough - as was evidenced three times during the Melbourne Aus-Ind test. What are you going to do to Zaheer Khan that is going to give him more pause for thought and incentive to work on the problem than denying him those couple of wickets?
Agreed, it's not as if bowlers are deliberately over-stepping, it's fine as it is.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch :)
Absolutely. Though a no-ball does mean there are 7 balls in an over, where a wide doesn't.
 

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