Free-hits in Tests?

[Goughy]

People such as Jamee999 are looking for solutions, what is the problem?

Exactly. What is the problem? There is nothing that needs fixing, hence no solution is needed.

There is no need for a batting team to be particularly rewarded for a small mistake that carries no impact on the game.

 

[Chemosit]

Exactly. What is the problem? There is nothing that needs fixing, hence no solution is needed.

There is no need for a batting team to be particularly rewarded for a small mistake that carries no impact on the game.

beat me to it.

 

[Mister Wright]

Found it ironic that a no ball Johnson bolwed in the 2nd innings allowed him one more ball in the over to dismiss Kumble.

 

[Richard]

Always find it ironic whenever that happens, and it's alarming how many times it has in my watching time.

Mind, it happens nowhere near so often as an extra delivery conceding runs does.

 

[GIMH]

The batsman should be allowed a free-hit, however they aren't allowed to wear a helmet, gloves or pads during the shot.

They can wear a box though, don't want to go too far.

 

[GIMH]

Found it ironic that a no ball Johnson bolwed in the 2nd innings allowed him one more ball in the over to dismiss Kumble.

Same thing allowed Fred to remove Ponting in the greatest over ever @ edgbaston

 

[Mister Wright]

Always find it ironic whenever that happens, and it's alarming how many times it has in my watching time.

Mind, it happens nowhere near so often as an extra delivery conceding runs does.

Well that's pretty obvious considering runs are more common than wickets. I only made the point given a no ball restricted Johnson from getting a wicket in the first innings.

 

[GIMH]

There was a letter in TWC after a T20 game (possibly Notts-Leicester ) bemoaning that a wide had given the bowler an extra delivery with which they had gotten out a tailender when there was a recognised batsman at t'other end...it suggested the batting side should choose whether they face the extra delivery

 

[Goughy]

But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch

 

[BoyBrumby]

I don't consider no-balls to be a particularly huge issue, but I do think that if they carried a penalty of 4 runs & an extra ball they'd disappear from the game pretty pronto.

It just depends whether you consider the cure worse than the disease.

 

[Mister Wright]

But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch

Maybe a wide a batsman doesn't have to deal with, but a no ball they can score off.. It's not exactly forgotten.

 

[Matt79]

Maybe we could break the leg of any bowler who oversteps. That would stamp it pretty quickly as well.

Or we could say that the fact that the delivery is illegal and cannot take a wicket is punishment enough - as was evidenced three times during the Melbourne Aus-Ind test. What are you going to do to Zaheer Khan that is going to give him more pause for thought and incentive to work on the problem than denying him those couple of wickets?

 

[Goughy]

How to punish bowlers for noballs has long been an issue.

In 1911 an ammedment to Law 16 was proposed at a MCC meeting where on the call of 'no ball' the ball would be pronounced dead.

No scoring would be allowed and no runouts possible and the batting team would be awarded 2 runs.

This was heavily opposed by many cricketers lead by B. Bosanquet.

Such was the dislike to changing the traditional rule that the proposals were withdarwn before a decision could be taken.

 

[andyc]

Maybe we could break the leg of any bowler who oversteps. That would stamp it pretty quickly as well.

Or we could say that the fact that the delivery is illegal and cannot take a wicket is punishment enough - as was evidenced three times during the Melbourne Aus-Ind test. What are you going to do to Zaheer Khan that is going to give him more pause for thought and incentive to work on the problem than denying him those couple of wickets?

Agreed, it's not as if bowlers are deliberately over-stepping, it's fine as it is.

 

[Richard]

But there isnt an extra ball. The no-ball or wide is outside the over and the batsman doesnt have to deal with it.

The bowlers still only bowls 6 balls, the no-ball or wide once dealt with is forgotten as if it never existed.

Now getting dismissed on the 7th ball of an over mis-counted by the umpire is a real bitch

Absolutely. Though a no-ball does mean there are 7 balls in an over, where a wide doesn't.