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England (and Wales) gloom, doom and recriminations thread

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
It seems Saqib is injured and Overton is also injured. Apparently Buttler is back for next test. Sunny G and the moronic Manju on Indian TV speculating that they will get Buttler to replace Ali (drop the current vice captain to get in the earlier vice captain - sound logic) and Wood will replace Overton but those would be the only changes. Seems likely?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
It seems Saqib is injured and Overton is also injured. Apparently Buttler is back for next test. Sunny G and the moronic Manju on Indian TV speculating that they will get Buttler to replace Ali (drop the current vice captain to get in the earlier vice captain - sound logic) and Wood will replace Overton but those would be the only changes. Seems likely?
You would hope that they would play one spinner. If Ali doesn't play, then Leach should come in. Shame about Saqib.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
It seems Saqib is injured and Overton is also injured. Apparently Buttler is back for next test. Sunny G and the moronic Manju on Indian TV speculating that they will get Buttler to replace Ali (drop the current vice captain to get in the earlier vice captain - sound logic) and Wood will replace Overton but those would be the only changes. Seems likely?
I would say I couldn't see us going to OT without a specialist spinner, but I suspect the wish is the father of the thought, because I totally could.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
So, if that's right, we're looking at Burns, Hameed, Malan, Root, Pope, Bairstow, Buttler, Woakes, Robinson, Wood and Anderson.

The bowlers will be praying that England bat first, even if that only gives them a couple of sessions off.
 

Chubb

International Regular
Australia could beat that England team with a state second eleven. I’m only surprised some people are still surprised by it. And it frankly serves the ECB right.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
The biggest indictment of the ECB's running of the game is that nobody has been suggesting any viable alternatives to this top 6. I was going to suggest that the cupboard couldn't be any barer, but just wait until Root decide's he's had enough of trying to carry the oxymoron that is English batting.
 

ImpatientLime

International Regular
Australia could beat that England team with a state second eleven. I’m only surprised some people are still surprised by it. And it frankly serves the ECB right.
no one expects england to win. no one even expects them to compete.

but equally no one should have expected england to dig their own grave by leaving out their two best bowlers by a country mile in conditions suited to bowling, only so they can save them for the flattest of flatties at the MCG.
 

Chubb

International Regular
My philosophy with England is just to assume the worst possible thing will happen every time. So pretty much everything about the Ashes so far feels like vindication.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59739472

I've always had one foot on the "Silverwood Out" bandwagon since the Indian tour, but he's moved into wilfully obtuse territory, so am fully onboard now.

Despite the mother, father, brother, sister and pet dog of paddlings in the first two tests he'd pick the same teams again.

Really, Christopher, really? You're not a ****ing politician, sunshine, sometimes it's ok to hold your hands up and say you effed up.
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
Bloody hell. I mean I've always thought the guy is incompetent, but he's taking the piss surely?

He was quoted as stating "I was happy with the skillset we had in the pink-ball Test, so I would pick the same team again". Jesus Christ. This is fiction surely?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
He'll probably be back at Yorkshire by April. There appear to be some vacancies there, and it probably can't harm having his old team-mate Gough in charge. That's the easy bit. Finding a convincing replacement is somewhat tougher. What's Jason Gillespie up to nowadays?
 
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ImpatientLime

International Regular
he can only work within the confines of what the country churns out right which is at a pretty low ebb right now. but has he got anything he is personally in control of right lately?

selection - this has been beaten to death and it wouldn't have changed the outcomes but it doesn't give him free reign to **** it up. woeful choices.
player improvement - how many players have improved under his reign? root has hit heights, but heights we'd seen previously. outside of that? barely anything worth a mention.
tactics - this diet of back of a length stuff that root admitted he couldn't alter his bowlers from serving up. again woeful stuff.

seemed like the easy option at the time. didn't they turn down gary kirsten for this bloke?
 

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