DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

[Slifer]

Seriously the biggest impact on cricket in recent times was Kerry Packer. As a boy growing up in the Caribbean I heard many more stories about Gavaskar and Lillee than almost any other outside cricketer. Sachin great as he was probably had as much influence on Indian cricket as imran did in Pakistan but Sachin didn't fundamentally change anything worldwide. Just that india is so much larger than all the other nations and his fans are so vocal that ....well you get the point.

 

[honestbharani]

That's extremely pedantic: people would hardly not be passionate about a sport and still turn out in droves to its matches.

Gavaskar would have been inspiring in the same way Bradman or Smith or Benaud or Compton would have been inspiring, perhaps putting new life into something that was flagging, but that happens all the time. Cricket in those countries probably would have gone on afterwards, rising and falling in popularity as it has throughout history, and each such 'revival' has its heroes.

And you call my post "pedantic"...

All I am saying is it is one thing to like a sport and play it in your own backyard and another to take it up professionally and try and make it at the highest level. And like it or not, post Gavaskar the number of folks who wanted to do the latter did go up, exponentially. Of course, Kapil and then Sachin took it to the next level, but it is absolutely silly to argue against the actual impact Gavaskar had on the game in India.

 

[honestbharani]

I presume you aren’t aware of what happened in 1977? I think HB is right in terms of both fellas inspiring the next gen of players in India for sure, but I think the idea of any player sort of moving the game forward in and by themselves is sort of overblown. Understandably in a lot of cases, but still overblown.

I think many of the really big things which have advanced cricket - proper player payments, night matches, IPL and other leagues etc have actually been the result of administrators rather than players.

But again, I get the inspiring later generations thing. Particularly as someone who has inspired a younger generation of posters on CW.net myself.

So you agree you are the Gavaskar of CW...

And see, I think the reason these things get mixed up is the rise of popularity of cricket in India has led to an economic boom in cricket not seen since the Packer days. So in a way, they are transitively related. But I would always ensure to split the difference because who knows if the second would have still happened even without the first. To me, Gavaskar and then Sachin changed how cricket is played, viewed and followed in India and the fact that India became so cricket crazy changed the cricketing world forever.

 

[honestbharani]

This is getting suspiciously close to saying that RP Singh impacted Indian cricket in a big way and I'm not sure I like that.

RPS forever.


But honestly,we all know it was Joginder Sharma who changed cricket forever. He is the new Kerry Packer.

 

[Days of Grace]

It’s Tendulkar. You don’t know him personally. Seriously, any time I see an Indian fan post referring to “sachin” I get creepy fanboi vibes.

Anyway, **** me, wait until he comes up (maybe next the overrated hack) before banging on about him incessantly.

 

[honestbharani]

It’s Tendulkar. You don’t know him personally. Seriously, any time I see an Indian fan post referring to “sachin” I get creepy fanboi vibes.

Any **** me, wait until he comes up (maybe next the overrated hack) before banging on about him incessantly.

Sachin is to Logan what Border is to Burgey. Good luck trying to keep either of them from bringing those players up in their posts.

 

[Logan]

Three biggest impacts which impacted the game the most since WW 2

1. Kerry Packer : Everything we know of modern cricket started with him. Better TV coverage. One day matches. Day night matches. Cricketers were paid fair wages.

2. Jagmohan Dalmiya - Sachin Tendulkar in the 90s : The duopoly in cricket was broken and the power centre was shifted to India. Cricketers started becoming multi millionaires.

3. T20 and IPL : Infused life to the sport. The game has become fully commercialised.

 

[Logan]

Sachin great as he was probably had as much influence on Indian cricket as imran did in Pakistan

I am not talking about their contributions to their respective countries alone. I am talking more on the financial impact on cricketers due to ads, merchandise etc. It all started with Sachin.

 

[Spark]

You guys realy are doing your best to ruin DoG's thread, hey?

Any **** me, wait until he comes up (maybe next the overrated hack) before banging on about him incessantly.

Like, seriously, take the hint.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Bradman probably next.

 

[jaideep]

Cricketweb had the biggest impact on Cricket.

 

[Coronis]

Bradman probably next.

Maybe people would actually post about the topic finally.

 

[h_hurricane]

Ponting or Sutcliffe should be up next. Richards with a fair shout as well.

 

[ankitj]

It’s Tendulkar. You don’t know him personally. Seriously, any time I see an Indian fan post referring to “sachin” I get creepy fanboi vibes.

Yeah, **** them. How dare they don't adhere to your cultural norms which are the only ones that should be normal.

 

[_00_deathscar]

It’s Tendulkar. You don’t know him personally.

How would you know that? It's Sachin.

 

[harsh.ag]

It's Sachin, DoG. It's always going to be Sachin.

 

[OverratedSanity]

It's definitely Sachin. Y’all will never get it.

 

[vcs]

I can see how the "Sachin changed cricket" argument sounds exactly like "Man Utd. changed the English Premier League (by being the dominant team when the League went global and money started pouring in)". I don't really buy the latter argument FWIW.

Having grown up in the '90s though, I certainly got the feeling that he transcended the game in India. Not one kid I knew didn't idolize him, no one had a bad thing to say about him. Even when he failed as a captain, it was more a sense of relief that he could just go back to batting brilliantly.

If he'd been implicated in the match fixing scandal, that would have been the end of following cricket for me (and I suspect a lot of others my age).

 

[ataraxia]

Richards up next I think.

 

[ataraxia]

Please go to this thread if you guys wish to pursue your argument: http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/cricket-chat/81538-random-cricket-discussion-thread.html#post4324918