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adharcric

International Coach
perfect, hadlee's the man here. if you get 5 more hadlee's in a row, i say you move to the #10 spots. but it'll be tricky, because you can have murali or warne as the spinner, and marshall or mcgrath (or someone else, lillee?) as the fast bowler. murali would bat at 11, but warne at 10, marshall at 10 but mcgrath at 11. again, could be complicated.
 

Blaze

Banned
adharcric said:
perfect, hadlee's the man here. if you get 5 more hadlee's in a row, i say you move to the #10 spots. but it'll be tricky, because you can have murali or warne as the spinner, and marshall or mcgrath (or someone else, lillee?) as the fast bowler. murali would bat at 11, but warne at 10, marshall at 10 but mcgrath at 11. again, could be complicated.

Yep if Hadlee gets a few more with no one else offering a challenge I will move on.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
adharcric said:
damn guys this is looking really close between imran khan and richard hadlee. i think we should all compromise and agree that they should be voted in as a pair, imran at 8 and hadlee at 9. follow that with warne/murali and marshall/mcgrath.
Yes but I want Wasim, as a contrast to the other bowlers LF, thats why I wouldn't of voted for Imran, tough now.

Hadlee over Wasim, I guess :mellow:
 

Blaze

Banned
andyc said:
Shaun Pollock. Averages more with the bat and less with the ball than Hadlee

Amazingly he does. Still, you would be stretching it to suggest that Pollock is the better player.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Blaze said:
Amazingly he does. Still, you would be stretching it to suggest that Pollock is the better player.
Yeah. Another good example of why "he has a better average" is a nothing argument when comparing cricketers.
 

Blaze

Banned
FaaipDeOiad said:
Yeah. Another good example of why "he has a better average" is a nothing argument when comparing cricketers.
Agreed, though It still also suggests that Pollock is slightly underrated
 

Dissector

International Debutant
Hadlee.

One of the easiest picks IMO. Judged on bowling alone I think he is one of the top three quicks along with Marshall and McGrath. His batting seals the deal. His statistics are obviously amazing and along with Murali and Lilee he is one of the few bowlers who average more than 5 wickets a game over a long career. His 31 wickets in 6 tests in India is also hugely impressive and this was in an era when the pitches were even flatter than they are today. This is where he differentiates himself from Lillee who never played in India and had only one horrendous tour of Pakistan. In fact Lillee played remarkably little test cricket outside Australia and England.
 
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C_C

International Captain
this was in an era when the pitches were even flatter than they are today.
Patently untrue.
70s to mid/late 90s was the era where pitches were most in bowler's favour in the last 50-odd years or so.
The average innings scores, etc., lack of 50+ ave. batsmen and abundance of sub-25 ave. bowlers proves that.
Hadlee is a fairly easy choice for this position.
 

Dissector

International Debutant
I am talking about Indian pitches in the 80's. Check out some of the series played then. 3/3 draws against Australia. 4/5 draws against Pakistan. etc. The pitches were definitely flatter and India had a pretty strong batting lineup. That's why Hadlee's record there is especially impressive.
 

C_C

International Captain
Dissector said:
I am talking about Indian pitches in the 80's. Check out some of the series played then. 3/3 draws against Australia. 4/5 draws against Pakistan. etc. The pitches were definitely flatter and India had a pretty strong batting lineup. That's why Hadlee's record there is especially impressive.
Err no. Indian pitches were very slow in the 80s but slow doesnt equate to flat. The large % of draws is simply because of :

1. lack of bowling adaptation for opposition- not many bowling attacks in those days knew how to bowl in India
2. India lacking a cutting attack after 1979.
3. Considerable amount of matches being lost due to poor scheduling and rainfall.
 

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