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Would've had more sympathy if the guy was a Marxist keeper.
Stevens did play against Bill Athey, who in turn played against Tom Cartwright (debut 1952).Stevens's only games in 1997 seem to have been against Sussex and Cambridge U.
If he'd played against Sussex a couple of years earlier he might have met Eddie Hemmings, who began with Warwickshire in 1966 - last player I'm aware of whose FC county career spanned 30 seasons.
He's a good shout. The dates looked promising as he could have linked Morris and Steve Waugh without the need for Simpson or Border, thus saving a link.Inverarity lasted from 1962 to 1985; does he help?
Remaining not out means giving up runs the not out batsman could have scored if they had more partners.I think there should be a two batting averages
1) Traditional Batting average calculated as per normal
2) True Batting Average which is runs divided by innings and gives no credit for not outs.
True Batting Average is a more accurate version of how good someone is. It will punish lower order players who get plenty of not outs but they arent in the team for batting anyway. Over time once the hysteria and what will the children think reactions are gotten over people and statisticians will migrate to the True Batting average in comparisons between players and ATG conversations.
Michael Hussey won't like it who made a career of hiding down the order at number 6 but top order batsman won't see what the fuss is all about as they rarely get the opportunity to bat through an inning in the first place.
Would average complete vs incomplete innings be the best way to show this?Remaining not out means giving up runs the not out batsman could have scored if they had more partners.
In order for your assertion to be correct, you would need to prove the increase in average from remaining not out is greater than the potential runs lost.
@BurgeySome players whose "true batting average" is considerably lower than their traditional average:
Shaun Pollock: 24.24 (32.32)
Ravindra Jadeja: 28.67 (36.57)
Wilfred Rhodes: 23.72 (30.19)
Imran Khan: 30.21 (37.69)
Steve Waugh: 42.19 (51.06)
Shiv Chanderpaul: 42.53 (51.37)
Andy Flower: 42.80 (51.55)
Allan Border: 42.33 (50.56)
Les Ames: 34.28 (40.57)
Adam Gilchrist: 40.66 (47.61)
(also from shorter careers: Dempster drops from 65.73 to 48.20; Voges from 61.88 to 47.90).
And some players whose averages aren't much affected:
Clem Hill: 38.34 (39.22)
Brian Lara: 51.52 (52.89)
Graham Gooch: 41.40 (42.58)
Ian Botham: 32.50 (33.55)
Virender Sehwag: 47.70 (49.34)
Players with 2000+ runs and a "true average" of 50+:
Don Bradman: 88.56
Graeme Pollock: 55.02
Everton Weekes: 55.00
Herbert Sutcliffe: 54.88
George Headley: 54.75
Kumar Sangakkara: 53.45
Jack Hobbs: 53.04
Marnus Labuschagne: 53.03
Clyde Walcott: 52.03
Steve Smith: 52.02
Ken Barrington: 51.95
Wally Hammond: 51.78
Brian Lara: 51.52
Len Hutton: 50.51
Gary Sobers: 50.20