Casson trades in Perth for Sydney

[Craig]

suppose you think hopes is a good player?

The Australian selectors thought so when they picked him. Sanath Jayasuriya agreed.

 

[Mister Wright]

suppose you think hopes is a good player?

Of course I do. Much better player than Thornely anyway.

 

[Haddin]

Yes. The Thornley who scored 261 against WA.

 

[Mister Wright]

Yes. The Thornley who scored 261 against WA.

Hasn't done much since. Has to be one of the most inconsistent players in Australian domestic cricket.

 

[Haddin]

You don't follow players like Thornley do you? Well, he had a decent year last year, as did Brad Haddin. Won't go on about what happend where the Blues ended up.

 

[Son Of Coco]

NSW would be a bit desperate if they choose to go for Hauritz. It wouldn't surprise me if Hauritz got a contract given that he has played Test and ODI cricket.

That said there is less competition for Daniel Doran, who if he continues like he did last season then Hauritz would never get a game for Queensland, unless playing on a spinning wicket.

Doran was living on the Tweed there for a little while...wish we'd convinced him to have a game for us! He could have really gone places that kid

 

[Son Of Coco]

That's a bit rough on allrounders to have Thornley named in their company. I think most batsman would be insulted having Thornley named as a batsman.

Well...if it's good enough for Symonds

 

[Mister Wright]

You don't follow players like Thornley do you? Well, he had a decent year last year, as did Brad Haddin. Won't go on about what happend where the Blues ended up.

I follow the crap players like Thornely to make sure their still being crap.

 

[Haddin]

If you support Queensland, then this all makes perfect sense. We have better talent coming through...

 

[Top_Cat]

Thought you said you'd thrown away the Maroon-tinted glasses, Kyle. Thornely will probably not play Test cricket but Hopes a better batsman? Hopes averages 29 after 35 matches with 3 tons whereas Dom averages almost 20 more with twice as many tons in the same number of matches. Hopes is a vastly superior bowler, though.

 

[marc71178]

You don't follow players like Thornley do you? Well, he had a decent year last year, as did Brad Haddin. Won't go on about what happend where the Blues ended up.

45.86, 21st in the averages - hardly world-beating.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

45.86, 21st in the averages - hardly world-beating.

Not exactly "crap" either though. Let alone what you'd expect from someone who isn't even a batsman.

 

[Mister Wright]

Thought you said you'd thrown away the Maroon-tinted glasses, Kyle. Thornely will probably not play Test cricket but Hopes a better batsman? Hopes averages 29 after 35 matches with 3 tons whereas Dom averages almost 20 more with twice as many tons in the same number of matches. Hopes is a vastly superior bowler, though.

There's no maroon-tinted anything going on here. Everyone will tell you I'm fair when it comes to Qlders realistic abilities, there's no way I would blindly come on here and proclaim Clinton Perren should be in the Australian side, and until recently I thought Johnson was an average bowler (at best). Everyone knows how much I hate people rating Thornely - he's crap, no two ways about it, whatever he's doing (he's good at fielding, that's about it). There's not much between Hopes and Thornely in the batting department, and as you've said Hopes is a far superior bowler.

 

[andyc]

There's not much between Hopes and Thornely in the batting department, and as you've said Hopes is a far superior bowler.

But then, as TC said, why is that Hopes averages 28.84 and Thornely 46.42?

 

[Mister Wright]

But then, as TC said, why is that Hopes averages 28.84 and Thornely 46.42?

Hopes plays a different role to Thornely when they bat. Thornely bats top 4 and Hopes bats six and is usually having to force the pace and be aggressive, meaning he's more likely to get out going for his shots more often. Before Thornely's 200* his average was around 22 or 25, and I'd be surprised if his average since that innings is much more than 35.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Hopes plays a different role to Thornely when they bat. Thornely bats top 4 and Hopes bats six and is usually having to force the pace and be aggressive, meaning he's more likely to get out going for his shots more often. Before Thornely's 200* his average was around 22 or 25, and I'd be surprised if his average since that innings is much more than 35.

His average without his 261* is 41.59. Not exactly disgraceful.

Incidentally, Hopes average without his highest score is 25.33. His bowling average without his best bowling figures is 44.16. You can do that with most people.

 

[benchmark00]

Thornely - can be coached by my dad.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Yeah, I can usually see where Kyle is coming from but I can't see it here. Maroon tinted glasses all the way.

 

[marc71178]

Not exactly "crap" either though. Let alone what you'd expect from someone who isn't even a batsman.

15 wickets @ 52.33. I know Aussies are obsessed about finding an all-rounder, but that's stretching it more than a little.

 

[Great Birtannia]

15 wickets @ 52.33. I know Aussies are obsessed about finding an all-rounder, but that's stretching it more than a little.

I think the "Let alone what you'd expect from someone who isn't even a batsman" was a spur back at post #15. He is definitely not an all rounder as far as first class cricket goes.

Hopes is a handy domestic bits and pieces one day player. You are having a laugh if you think his FC batting is anywhere near Thornley.