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The QLD side then was just terrific.
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Australian cricket at the turn of the millennium
- Thread starter Richard
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NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
It certainly was.
As I wrote earlier you'd have to pick another batsmen someone like Clinton Perren and take out one of the [unlucky] bowlers, probably Dawes.
2000 was our second of three Shields in a row, think this was the year that in the final there was some controversy between Law and Berry over a catch.
Richard
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I did think of that, and quite why I didn't put Perren in the reserves I don't know as he was (is) a pretty decent batsman. I just couldn't possibly bring myself to leave-out any of Kasprowicz, Bichel, Dawes, Dale or Noffke, they were all so good. If one of them was to go I guess it'd be Noffke as he was only relatively making his way at that time.
Pretty much every WA game I took note of between '98/99 and '02/03 had Hussey and Campbell opening. Doesn't mean they did in all of them, but I can't think of anyone else who did.
Richard
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The Victorian bowling around that time was surely some of the best ever seen at domestic level.
Reiffel, Fleming, Inness, Warne, Harvey. Three unquestionably Test-class bowlers, one who in my view very possibly was but never got the chance and a more than acceptable all-rounder who probably had the talent to play based on bowling (and nearly on batting) alone even if he didn't always justify that.
Then Harwood, Lewis and Miller as reserves!!
Richard
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That is true, and I thought it when compiling the lists. But only I think in the cases of about 4 or 5 players has someone gone from rookie to excellence. Some (for example Hussey M, Haddin, Clark and Bracken) merely went from pretty good to excellent.
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NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
I've had a look at various scorecards in the year 2000 and notice Noffke actually was Man of The Match in the 2000 Shield Final. I suppose I've looked at this thread and thought you just meant 2000 - not the years before and the years just after the millennium.
I know it wasn't you that made the list of current players, but you can see the difference including players from a span of about 4 years in the top list, to the current list of just this year.
Regarding Ryan Campbell, I guess he did open a bit more than I remembered, so he might deserve his spot. Would love to see the best side without him though and Langer opening,
Big Tom Moody is slightly wasted at 8.
Richard
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All the players I listed in my opening post either played in the Pura Cup, Test cricket or the ACB Cup in the 2000/01 season. Most extended a year or two in both directions as well. If I'd included players over a span of 4 years Mark Taylor, David Boon and Jamie Siddons (to name just the three best) would also certainly be in there.
Guess Brad Williams would probably play if you left-out Campbell, and I did think eight was rather low for Moody, even in his final season, but I don't remember Langer opening very much for WA. Again, doesn't mean he didn't, but I never saw him do so and he always batted three for Middlesex (with Ramprakash at four!!) when he came over here in the off-season. Katich, Martyn and Goodwin obviously have to play and you need a wicketkeeper (Gilchrist would be in even if you didn't of course), so Moody at eight was about all I could think of.
Flem274*
123/5
How on earth do NSW produce so many good players? The amount they produce is pretty freakish, no wonder Mott didn't want to come coach us. Is their academy/domestic setup the best in Aussie?
In any case, Australia definitely has the platform atm to stay in the top 3-4 sides in the world consistently.
In any case, Australia definitely has the platform atm to stay in the top 3-4 sides in the world consistently.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Probably largely in thanks to having a larger population, so the law of averages is in NSW's favour.
Simon
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I think a lot of what they do is find talent early and develop them through junior squads better than the other states. Particuarly players from the country, i know there are various junior speed blitz blues squads throught NSW and they bring on players from there. Look at someone like Dom Thornley, he's from Albury (about 700km's) from Sydney but he was recognised as a talent very early (around under 14's-15's) and they stick with them. Obviously he hasn't kicked on but plenty like Glenn McGrath and even Adam Gilchrist did.
GIMH
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Works a treat at helping England win the Ashes all the time
GotSpin
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They have emerging blues programs and so on. High quality Cricket
Flem274*
123/5
Just to help Athlai hijack the thread some more.
Canterbury 2005
Michael Papps
Gary Stead
Peter Fulton
Nathan Astle
Craig McMillan
Chris Harris
Chris Cairns
Brendan McCullum
Paul Wiseman
Shane Bond
Chris Martin
Notable Reserve: Neil Broom
Central Districts "Invincibles" 2008
Jamie How
Peter Ingram
Brad Patton (averages 75)
Mathew Sinclair
Ross Taylor
Jacob Oram
Bevan Griggs
Ewen Thompson
Michael Mason
Richard Sherlock
Mitchell McClennaghan (sic) (I hate spelling that name)
Notable reserve: Greg Hay (average 50+)
NSW of 2000 still carves up though by a milion miles. Unless an Indian or South Africa domestic team is stacked with test players I can't see that NSW side being beaten on paper. A WI one from the 80s could be a possible challenger.
Canterbury 2005
Michael Papps
Gary Stead
Peter Fulton
Nathan Astle
Craig McMillan
Chris Harris
Chris Cairns
Brendan McCullum
Paul Wiseman
Shane Bond
Chris Martin
Notable Reserve: Neil Broom
Central Districts "Invincibles" 2008
Jamie How
Peter Ingram
Brad Patton (averages 75
)Mathew Sinclair
Ross Taylor
Jacob Oram
Bevan Griggs
Ewen Thompson
Michael Mason
Richard Sherlock
Mitchell McClennaghan (sic) (I hate spelling that name)
Notable reserve: Greg Hay (average 50+)
NSW of 2000 still carves up though by a milion miles. Unless an Indian or South Africa domestic team is stacked with test players I can't see that NSW side being beaten on paper. A WI one from the 80s could be a possible challenger.
Athlai
Not Terrible
CD the team with no attack. Good Canterbury team though.Just to help Athlai hijack the thread some more.
Canterbury 2005
Michael Papps
Gary Stead
Peter Fulton
Nathan Astle
Craig McMillan
Chris Harris
Chris Cairns
Brendan McCullum
Paul Wiseman
Shane Bond
Chris Martin
Notable Reserve: Neil Broom
Central Districts "Invincibles" 2008
Jamie How
Peter Ingram
Brad Patton (averages 75
Mathew Sinclair
Ross Taylor
Jacob Oram
Bevan Griggs
Ewen Thompson
Michael Mason
Richard Sherlock
Mitchell McClennaghan (sic) (I hate spelling that name)
Notable reserve: Greg Hay (average 50+)
Flem274*
123/5
Oh and the NI one now could beat that if they negated Bond and Cairns.
Flem274*
123/5
We've been bowling people out at Napier for Gods sake, and Ewen Thompson is the current MVP, give us a bit of credit.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Dunno, that is still a very tough batting lineup with Richardson, Astle, Fleming, McMillan, Harris. The current NI top 5 isn't as good as that lineup.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Wellington's attack > CDWe've been bowling people out at Napier for Gods sake, and Ewen Thompson is the current MVP, give us a bit of credit.
Oh **** the Blackcaps poached Franklin, Gillespie and Patel.
****.